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Not with all the negative costs, 25%+ gross participants, and only domestic theatrical. {nm}

Posted by: who99 on Sep 19, 12:37 in response to Peterlee's post Quentin Tarantino sees BSTRD saving Weinstein brothers

Quentin Tarantino sees BSTRD saving Weinstein brothers Peterlee Sep 19, 10:28

it'll make more money for Uni than TWC. Halloween 2 made more $ for TWC. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 11:23

Only they've barely made back the film rental on HALLOWEEN II thus far, so it'll be a long road uphill to make money, even w/ ancillaries. {nm} dsbman Sep 19, 11:41

you're right...I thought it could get near the 40's but its not even going to break 35 now that I look at the DBO. Moviesnob Sep 19, 11:50

You means that BSTRD and H2 are both money loser? Peterlee Sep 19, 12:20

i dont know specifics of the H2 worldwide deal. It's possible they can make their money back there. There's no way IG makes $ for TWC. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:14

you know what movie made $$ for TWC? The Collector. Paid $2 mil to make, sold for $3 mil. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:16

Not with all the negative costs, 25%+ gross participants, and only domestic theatrical. who99 Sep 19, 12:37

Not with all the negative costs, 25%+ gross participants, and only domestic theatrical. who99 Sep 19, 12:37

TWC finances 50% cost of this film, so they can have good share on this film's worldwide revenue {nm} Peterlee Sep 19, 12:43

they dontget worldwide, Uni does (and dvd). TWC gets domestic and pay tv. Keep in mind they have no output deal for pay tv too. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:12

But according to Los Angeles Times, Universal and TWC will split the film's worldwide proceeds equally. Peterlee Sep 19, 13:38

that wasnt the original deal. TWC had its back against the wall and couldn't pay to release the film, hence uni came in. Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:42

oh... You meant that Universal advanced P&A cost of this film's US theatrical release, not TWC? Peterlee Sep 19, 13:49

both parts are bs. the P&A and partial budget was paid by uni and Liberty Media has been talking to TWC about possible DVD distribution and Moviesnob Sep 19, 14:17

let me qualify that. When TWC first needed additional funds to make IG, they reached the deal with uni that I spoke of above. Its possible Moviesnob Sep 19, 14:19

Thank you a lot. So it meant that TWC has terminated their pay-tv deal with Showtime? Peterlee Sep 19, 14:31





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