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Anyways, my thoughts on PROME:

Posted by: Paul2k on May 28, 20:59 in response to jmr's post Why is there the belief that PROME will be so huge?

I have no idea what it will open to, or how it will do in the long run. It could do 25 OW, it could do 80. I'll wait for tracking to start to shore up my guess.

As for why there is a belief that PROME will be huge? I assume you mean why is the price here at 160+, indicating an OW of 60+?Ā  First, note that the price has dropped in the past few months from a high of around 200. Second, yes, HSX has many genre fanboys and fangirls who were probably pumped on the notion of Ridley Scott returning to the genre and franchise that put him on the map; teaming with an interesting writer in Damon Lindlehof who gets the Losties all hot and bothered; and working with a bagful of fascinating and well-regarded actors. Throw in a pretty well-run marketing campaign and some very tasty trailers, and it's no wonder the price was so high.

Is it still too high? Who knows. You contend that the Alien franchise has a low ceiling. I argue that the Alien franchise has a VERY high ceiling- however, if the quality and talent behind the subsequent entries are lacking, that ceiling isn't reached. Cameron and crew delivered; Fincher was hamstrung by producers and the studio, but still managed to deliver a mesmerizing gut-punch of an entry (IMO); Jeunet was perhaps too idiosyncratic to be a good fit for the series and yet Resurrection still has amazing visuals and some screwy ideas to make it worth a watch. And then it's all downhill from there with the various "vs Predator" crapfests. But the fandom for the series still remains, and to have the originator return with what seems to be a fresh vision and an intriguingly epic story?

Finally, I don't think this profiles as something of the horror genre. Horror/SciFi maybe...it doesn't look like Event Horizon though. BOM has a genre of Horror/Scifi, and it says that I Am Legend tops that list with 77 OW/256 total cume. War of the Worlds is second with 65/234; Signs (really?) is third at 60/228; and then Aliens and Alien come in at 4 and 5 with 85 and 80 (unadjusted) respectively. And the dropoff from there continues. So maybe the market for Horror/SciFi is shallow. But perhaps PROME can't be pigeonholed like that. And perhaps it can transcend.

Why is there the belief that PROME will be so huge? jmr May 28, 19:48

Again, do you need help? {nm} RazorHawk May 28, 19:52

Razor, I think he's a bit like HarryWarden, he may have only joined here to talk about movies on the forums. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 20:04

But hopefully not as annoying as it sounds like he was, apparently :) {nm} jmr May 28, 20:10

Thank god for that. Just be careful when wording your discussion starters. Since you aren't an active trader, you may feel free to be Paul2k May 28, 20:24

Thanks for the tips :) {nm} jmr May 28, 20:26

what happened to Harry Warden by the way? {nm} GMov May 28, 20:41

Since I'm currently on and asked this myself already. He's banned but not permanently {nm} jmr May 28, 20:43

... it's assumed. {nm} Jane_Citizen May 28, 21:25

He got out of hand April 11, and lost his freedom of speech. {nm} PVL Admin May 28, 20:43

Hmm, so Charlize Theron is not a big name? The Alien franchise has always had a strong female lead... elchan May 28, 21:09

CTHER is being more promoted for this weekend'd big release. {nm} jmr May 28, 21:10

People will be surprised how well SWTHM, will do this weekend. I say mostly due to CTHER. {nm} elchan May 28, 21:19

What kind of opening weekend figure do u classify as well? {nm} karspov May 28, 21:23

I'm going to say at least the numbers that MIB3 pulled in for its 3-day. {nm} elchan May 29, 07:57

Everyone, jmr is HarryWarden. Antibody May 28, 22:49

HA HA HA HA HA Jane_Citizen May 28, 23:50

The Alien franchise has a low ceiling? {nm} Paul2k May 28, 20:08

Also, you pigeonhole it as horror, then you pigeonhole it as scifi, comparing it to Matrix and Avatar? Focus your arguement. {nm} Paul2k May 28, 20:10

SciFi-Horror combo {nm} jmr May 28, 20:11

Sci-rror? {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 20:14

A new genre is born!!!! {nm} jmr May 28, 20:16

I bought my ticket last week and am taking a half day off work to see it. That's a once every three-year thing. . . Abraxas May 28, 20:16

if you take the historical data route, adjusted for inflation, the biggest Alien movie opening was 37M tealfan May 28, 20:24

However, you're also stretching back to Alien (1979) and Aliens (1986) which opened in VERY different box office eras. Paul2k May 28, 20:32

These posts to me just scream, I'm short on a stock, why am I not making my money yeeeet?!?! :( {nm} MiyazakiFan May 28, 20:48

Anyways, my thoughts on PROME: Paul2k May 28, 20:59

Comparing PROME within the SciFi/Horror genre to I Am Legend, War of the Worlds and Signs aren't fair because of their respective ratings. accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 21:20

*isn't fair {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 21:22

Good point. I just don't feel that PROME can be genre-pigeonholed. It's too "event" tent-poley to fit there. But the rating can be an issue. {nm} Paul2k May 28, 21:33

Also, one could argue that the starpower of those movies you cited is far greater than the star power of PROME. accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 21:36

I have heard both friends and strangers Colt 1911 May 28, 21:24

THANK YOU, new best friend, I've been wondering why people are so excited about a franchise that hasn't been good since 1986. austpow May 28, 22:04

Ridley Scott is one of my favorite directors. The film looks amazing from the trailers. Could care less where the source material comes from {nm} Catzan May 28, 22:29

It's been 10+ years since the last Alien JohnnyS2 May 28, 23:17

It was almost 10 years since the last MIB, and look how that went... {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 28, 23:20

Well, MIB2 was terrible. Then again, so was the last Alien {nm} JohnnyS2 May 28, 23:33

Heh, could care less about the last Alien. Scott's Alien was a masterpiece of horror and sci-fi. Bladerunner...Gladiator...Blackhawk Down.. Catzan May 29, 01:20

I think the trailers have been a slow reveal...perhaps testing told them they needed to show more perhaps they planned it that way. I see Catzan May 29, 01:29

I can respect that viewpoint JohnnyS2 May 29, 09:30

yes, it is...I finally found it again...lol...so tough to be a casual trader... Catzan May 29, 11:54

I guess, just put your HSX dollars where your mouth is. I, personally, am very excited to see PROME and hope it is half as good as trailers {nm} Ryan_Stewart May 29, 07:04





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