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Why I can't get on board with FROGP at its current number.

Posted by: PendenteLite on Dec 11, 06:41

I'm just going to say this and it is no reflection of my personal feelings.  I think that Disney has cut its box office on this movie in half from where it would have been by having a black protagonist.  I think a lot of white parents, particularly in the south are just not going to be interested in taking their kids.  I'm not saying they hate black princesses or the idea of them, I just don't think the level of interest will be there.  Just being honest!  Hope I am wrong on all counts!

Why I can't get on board with FROGP at its current number. PendenteLite Dec 11, 06:41

I hope you're wrong too. TroyPoodle Dec 11, 06:55

There's a reason doll mfg. make 'em in light and dark flavors. Kids are more likely to invest themselves in characters more like themselves. {nm} edzep Dec 11, 07:10

With all due respect, that's a load. See my message below {nm} HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:46

If it was Pocahontas, it would have had the potential of being a bit of an investment - not sure they are really comparable, but still Facto Dec 11, 06:59

And that played in approximately 700 fewer theatres... Started limited. There are some similarities, but it was a summer release. {nm} Facto Dec 11, 07:00

Why should it be about black or white? If it's a good movie, people should be able to look past the color of the characters. {nm} AgentEvil Dec 11, 07:00

Plus I have this movie LONG. It better do well. {nm} AgentEvil Dec 11, 07:00

Ha ha! Ditto! {nm} eyescovered Dec 11, 07:03

Maybe... eyescovered Dec 11, 07:01

How can this really be relevant? Precious just did quite well, and Oprah is a superstar. Obama is African-American, etc etc etc Facto Dec 11, 07:07

I hear ya... eyescovered Dec 11, 07:13

It's also opening in the weeks before Christmas which tend to be slow due to people working to earn xtra money for the holidays secretstalker Dec 11, 07:12

Probably good points. Hope nobody forgets though that this one adjusts x3 + previous.... {nm} Facto Dec 11, 07:18

Crap... I *HAD* forgotten... *sigh* {nm} secretstalker Dec 11, 07:58

the flip side is there is a black audience that has been alienated from traditional Disney production that will be empowered by this one {nm} Moviesnob Dec 11, 07:14

All the people the see Tyler Perry movies can bring their kids lapuckfan Dec 11, 09:28

While I don't doubt this country has no shortage of racism I really don't {nm} HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:16

lets try this again HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:43

BLDSD plays into the "White guilt" fantasy. A Southern white family "saves" a poor black orphan. {nm} Antibody Dec 11, 11:42

why does the argument seem so famiiar from last year {nm} hmm Dec 11, 08:07

[KIDS] short on [FROGP] at this price as well. KidsFund Dec 11, 08:13

Personally, I just think it looks a little scary for younger kids, and a little too much voodoo. Could be a huge hit, but my kids have no SEETVFund Dec 11, 09:41





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Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 6000 0.08 (+0.04)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 19.60 (-0.40)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 9000 175.59 (+0.76)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 25000 2.50 (-1.02)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 8000 0.08 (+0.04)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 25000 69.64 (+2.24)          Enemies (ENMES) 1 19.60 (-0.40)          I Love You Forever (ILYFE) 900 0.17 (-0.01)          Enemies (ENMES) 100000 19.60 (-0.40)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 7736 2.50 (-1.02)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 1000 2.50 (-1.02)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 44333 216.21 (-1.51)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.19 (-1.22)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 137168 216.21 (-1.51)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 115.77 (+3.21)          Enemies (ENMES) 50000 19.60 (-0.40)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 2500 17.46 (+1.23)          Sinners (SINER) 5000 115.77 (+3.21)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 2475 69.64 (+2.24)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 42500 33.41 (+0.04)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 2500 0.66 (-0.05)          Jay Kelly (JKELY) 10000 0.69 (-0.02)          Fablehaven (FBLHV) 1000 23.47 (+0.08)          Evel Knievel on Tour (EVKNV) 250 33.91 (0.00)          Dead Man's Wire (DMWIR) 1000 7.12 (-0.08)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Chloe (CHLO) 150000 9.25 (+1.34)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 12832 216.21 (-1.51)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 19241 35.56 (-10.56)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Minions 3 (MNIO3) 30000 256.97 (-0.80)          Enemies (ENMES) 8500 19.60 (-0.40)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 25000 11.47 (-1.51)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 14044 385.42 (+4.15)          The Electric State (ELCST) 5900 0.08 (+0.04)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 4000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 5000 0.66 (-0.05)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 5 152.59 (-0.55)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 6000 0.08 (+0.04)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 19.60 (-0.40)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 9000 175.59 (+0.76)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 25000 2.50 (-1.02)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 8000 0.08 (+0.04)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 25000 69.64 (+2.24)          Enemies (ENMES) 1 19.60 (-0.40)          I Love You Forever (ILYFE) 900 0.17 (-0.01)          Enemies (ENMES) 100000 19.60 (-0.40)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 7736 2.50 (-1.02)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 1000 2.50 (-1.02)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 44333 216.21 (-1.51)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.19 (-1.22)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 137168 216.21 (-1.51)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 115.77 (+3.21)          Enemies (ENMES) 50000 19.60 (-0.40)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 2500 17.46 (+1.23)          Sinners (SINER) 5000 115.77 (+3.21)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 2475 69.64 (+2.24)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 42500 33.41 (+0.04)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 2500 0.66 (-0.05)          Jay Kelly (JKELY) 10000 0.69 (-0.02)          Fablehaven (FBLHV) 1000 23.47 (+0.08)          Evel Knievel on Tour (EVKNV) 250 33.91 (0.00)          Dead Man's Wire (DMWIR) 1000 7.12 (-0.08)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Chloe (CHLO) 150000 9.25 (+1.34)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 12832 216.21 (-1.51)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 19241 35.56 (-10.56)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Minions 3 (MNIO3) 30000 256.97 (-0.80)          Enemies (ENMES) 8500 19.60 (-0.40)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 25000 11.47 (-1.51)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 14044 385.42 (+4.15)          The Electric State (ELCST) 5900 0.08 (+0.04)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 4000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 5000 0.66 (-0.05)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 5 152.59 (-0.55)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 6000 0.08 (+0.04)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 19.60 (-0.40)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 9000 175.59 (+0.76)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 25000 2.50 (-1.02)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 8000 0.08 (+0.04)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 25000 69.64 (+2.24)          Enemies (ENMES) 1 19.60 (-0.40)          I Love You Forever (ILYFE) 900 0.17 (-0.01)          Enemies (ENMES) 100000 19.60 (-0.40)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 7736 2.50 (-1.02)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 1000 2.50 (-1.02)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 44333 216.21 (-1.51)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.19 (-1.22)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 137168 216.21 (-1.51)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 115.77 (+3.21)          Enemies (ENMES) 50000 19.60 (-0.40)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 2500 17.46 (+1.23)          Sinners (SINER) 5000 115.77 (+3.21)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 2475 69.64 (+2.24)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 42500 33.41 (+0.04)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          Rebuilding (RBULD) 150000 2.32 (+0.29)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 2500 0.66 (-0.05)          Jay Kelly (JKELY) 10000 0.69 (-0.02)          Fablehaven (FBLHV) 1000 23.47 (+0.08)          Evel Knievel on Tour (EVKNV) 250 33.91 (0.00)          Dead Man's Wire (DMWIR) 1000 7.12 (-0.08)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Chloe (CHLO) 150000 9.25 (+1.34)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 12832 216.21 (-1.51)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 19241 35.56 (-10.56)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Lily Gladstone (LGLAD) 1222 13.77 (-0.20)          Minions 3 (MNIO3) 30000 256.97 (-0.80)          Enemies (ENMES) 8500 19.60 (-0.40)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 25000 11.47 (-1.51)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 14044 385.42 (+4.15)          The Electric State (ELCST) 5900 0.08 (+0.04)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 4000 0.07 (-0.01)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 5000 0.66 (-0.05)          Eric Larue (ERICL) 8000 0.08 (+0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 5 152.59 (-0.55)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 6000 0.08 (+0.04)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 19.60 (-0.40)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 9000 175.59 (+0.76)          Audrey’s Children (AUDRC) 8000 0.07 (-0.01)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 25000 2.50 (-1.02)          The Actor (TACTR) 8000 0.12 (-0.02)          The Electric State (ELCST) 8000 0.08 (+0.04)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 25000 69.64 (+2.24)          Enemies (ENMES) 1 19.60 (-0.40)          I Love You Forever (ILYFE) 900 0.17 (-0.01)          Enemies (ENMES) 100000 19.60 (-0.40)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 7736 2.50 (-1.02)          Taylour Paige (TPAIG) 1000 2.50 (-1.02)          Rhys Ifans (RIFAN) 25000 35.56 (-10.56)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 44333 216.21 (-1.51)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.19 (-1.22)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 137168 216.21 (-1.51)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 115.77 (+3.21)          Enemies (ENMES) 50000 19.60 (-0.40)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 2500 17.46 (+1.23)          Sinners (SINER) 5000 115.77 (+3.21)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 2475 69.64 (+2.24)