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Because no one knew if the original IM through Avengers was going to be a success? Marvel BUILT their empire, one success at a time, which

Posted by: BSmurf on Oct 15, 12:13 in response to Antibody's post Sorry, but it doesn't fit the plan right now is an...

allowed for long term vision that brings the fans along for the ride.

DC is ASSUMING success, without doing the foundation work.

WB is announcing a slate of 10+ DC movies on its shareholder call. SUICD in 2016, WONDR and JLEAG 2017, FLASH and AQUMN 2018, SHAZM and RogerMore Oct 15, 09:20

(EMILL to play the Flash, TROCK confirmed as Black Adam) {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 09:26

Fritz: [EMILL] is [FLASH] 2018 Antibody Oct 15, 09:27

Awesome, he's a great actor {nm} tatoufan Oct 15, 09:39

and nearly as intimidating as D.J. Qualls {nm} charlie Oct 15, 10:01

My trade history is showing FLASH delisted today. I cannot find any news or announcements. Anyone know why? {nm} rmg427 May 26, 16:59

no new batman or superman until after 2020? thats takes some guts {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 09:29

I read this as "in addition to" their plans for Superman and Batman {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 09:33

that would make more sense, but they do mention more standalone ones for those characters, but no dates {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 09:37

but after Superman kills Batman in Dawn for Justice, nowhere for his story to really go {nm} charlie Oct 15, 09:40

you're right. from the press release Moviesnob Oct 15, 10:21

What takes more guts is that they have only 1 quasi-successful film in this incarnation of the DC Universe. They're going all-in {nm} Everyone else in the South Oct 15, 09:34

what else is WB going to spend its cash on? {nm} charlie Oct 15, 10:33

DC will be first in female solo WONDR and African-American solo in Cyborg. Will Marvel now schedule Ms. Marvel, Black Widow and BPNTH? {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:13

marvel sees them selves as trailblazers, i doubt they will react to this. There are already plans for Black Panther and Ms Marvel Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:17

But not if DC beats them to being first with a female solo superhero movie and first African-American solo superhero movie. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:20

Can't tell if you're trolling with the "First!" argument or being serious... {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:21

Serious. Fans have been riding on Marvel being unwilling to take a chance on solo female and BPNTH. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:24

Where were these "Fans" when the "first solo female superhero" movies called Elektra and Catwoman came out. Marvel and DC both tanked there {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:37

They were either waiting for a good movie, or ten years old. {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 11:43

Elektra was Fox, not Marvel/Disney. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:46

that wont change how marvel sees themselves. Plus, whats more important to them is to do it right, not just to do it {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:26

+1 Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it should. Make it GOOD, or don't bother. Failure disguised as "progress" is still fail {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:38

That's a cowardly excuse, basically saying Marvel don't know how to make a GOOD solo Female or African-American superhero movie. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:54

But they have no problems making solo movies out of their White Male superheroes. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:56

Wow -- you are reading my points completely backwards. Explanation inside: BSmurf Oct 15, 12:11

Every movie is a risk, the caveat goes without saying. The point is DC is willing to commit, but Marvel so far doesn't. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:31

We both agree that DC is "willing to commit" - when was that an issue in this thread? A better discussion is "Is it a good idea for them to BSmurf Oct 15, 12:41

i think you're misunderstanding. they want every movie to be good, but they are looking at a much bigger picture than "first" Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:59

Sorry, but it doesn't fit the plan right now is an excuse. Why weren't they in the 10-yr plan to begin with? {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:03

Because no one knew if the original IM through Avengers was going to be a success? Marvel BUILT their empire, one success at a time, which BSmurf Oct 15, 12:13

their planning, and I cant believe you havent noticed this, has had its timing in place for years. A lot of characters are set to be introed Moviesnob Oct 15, 12:48

BPNTH was hinted at in IRNM2 and had several scripts so was obviously in the plans, yet still no follow up. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 13:02

BTW, this isnt the first non white solo superhero. But why let facts get in the way of fanboy excitement! {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 13:17

You know I meant this current gen. Even then, Steel, Blade and Spawn are all WB. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 13:32

yeah, don't sacrifice your cookie-cutter comic book movies' mediocre quality at the altar of diversity, Marvel! {nm} charlie Oct 15, 11:55

Exactly. Simply the *fact* that they are making solo movies with female and Aftrican leads has no correlation with them being successful. BSmurf Oct 15, 11:20

WW and Cyborg are being introduced in SUPE2 so moviegoers will know them. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:22

its called hubris. I really hope BvS works {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:27

Marvel would really have to hustle to get a Captain Marvel movie out before WONDR, but plenty of time for BPNTH {nm} Rioter Oct 15, 11:47

Actually, JMOMO is Polynesian so AQUMN would be their first non-white solo superhero. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:14

WB slate: [SUICD] 2016 [WONDR] 2017 [JLEAG] 2017 [AQUMN] 2018 [SHAZM] 2019 Antibody Oct 15, 09:57





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