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I agree, but the idea of watching a man beat up a woman for our entertainment also has an underlying element of misogyny.

Posted by: RogerMore on Oct 12, 14:07 in response to tawdryhepburn's post The idea that a woman cannot be in a fight has an...

Of course, it's Bond so some level of misogyny is expected. But even so I think there's been only one time where Bond has killed a woman through hand to hand combat - with Famke Janssen in Goldeneye.  (I don't recall this ever being controversial though, so I suppose it's all how it's handled.

Wmag: JCHAS " One of my goals is to play a villain in a Bond film... I’m waiting for that call!" Call her! Antibody Oct 12, 10:13

she would be almost as intimidating as Adam Driver {nm} jangles Oct 12, 10:21

More so than MAMAL. Enough with the eurotrash villains. {nm} Antibody Oct 12, 10:29

Idris Elba {nm} jangles Oct 12, 10:30

He should be up for 007. {nm} Antibody Oct 12, 10:32

You think it would be sensible to have him start a series of films as Bond, in 4/5 years time, at pushing 50? [nm] ladybegood Oct 12, 11:07

I thought Craig is going to do one more. In that case, longer than 4-5 years. More like 8+ years in which case he'll be over 50. ~JPV~ Oct 12, 11:26

I think Roger More was 58 when he did his last Bond film.. {nm} Dorfman Oct 12, 13:14

And he probably should've bowed out a couple films earlier IMO. {nm} ~JPV~ Oct 12, 13:32

But I didn't look a day older than 55! {nm} RogerMore Oct 12, 13:34

Watch it, buddy... {nm} EuroFund Oct 12, 10:37

It amazes me that the producers keep going for the male 'blofeld-type' villain... where numerous actresses would be more interesting JMT-NL Oct 12, 11:42

In a physical action movie sense, you are limited on how you can have Bond confront a female villian and still be considered "heroic" {nm} notfabio Oct 12, 12:04

The idea that a woman cannot be in a fight has an underlying level of misogyny. tawdryhepburn Oct 12, 12:24

The MPAA treats violence against women differently than against men among other things {nm} notfabio Oct 12, 12:36

I agree, but the idea of watching a man beat up a woman for our entertainment also has an underlying element of misogyny. RogerMore Oct 12, 14:07

Does it though? It's James Bond, so there is little chance of a female adversary who isn't overtly sexualized. But a fight can be a fight. {nm} tawdryhepburn Oct 12, 15:55

I think that's the sensitivity. It's why female villains in movies are often killed by another female character (spoils for various films) RogerMore Oct 12, 16:46

Kingsman and Dredd are two films that come to mind with female villains that get into fights with the hero {nm} RamsFan2004 Oct 12, 13:38

But were also R-rated. {nm} notfabio Oct 12, 13:45

True. {nm} RamsFan2004 Oct 12, 14:01

X-Men: Mystique vs Wolverine X-Men 2: Lady Deathstrike vs Wolverine RazorHawk Oct 12, 16:28

I was gonna say Xenia Onatopp, but Bond never actually struck her. {nm} Antibody Oct 12, 13:52

Actually he did - spoils RogerMore Oct 12, 14:11

Ha, it was off-screen. Antibody Oct 12, 14:29

can't he just shoot her ( no slapping ) and apologize ? {nm} JMT-NL Oct 12, 13:55

He did in The World is Not Enough. {nm} Antibody Oct 12, 13:57

hmm...I think that was the only time there was a female Bond villain {nm} tealfan Oct 12, 15:45

A main one RogerMore Oct 12, 17:20





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