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TLJ works as a movie you don't think too much about, but as part of an existing universe is where it falters
If your expectations are to watch the movie and walk out of the theater without ever giving it another thought, then TLJ is fine. It's visually amazing.
The problem is fitting TLJ as part of an existing franchise and wanting to dig into it like it's Game of Thrones or the Song of Ice & Fire books for clues about a deeper story.
Rian wasn't given a roadmap of what the story was. There isn't a story, they're making it up as their going along and it's readily apparent from the TLJ.
What really surprised me was watching TFA after TLJ and how much they clash with how one ends and the other begins. Mark said he had to tell Rian about some continuity issues that needed to be fixed but it doesn't even seem like Rian watched TFA.
I feel like a sucker wasting money reading the books Lucasfilm released that were supposed to be in-continuity now because TLJ doesn't match them. There's no one at Lucasfilm trying to actually build a world, they're just making a movie and then trying to piece them together.
No one is complaining about plot holes and universe building with Jumanji. It's a fun movie you watch and forget. The same might be said of TLJ. Where Disney will be hurt is all the sales of related merchandise (like the books and comics) and the subsequent movies because SW fandom took a major hit.
I do understand the SW fans who feel like Rian was making fun of them and mocking them. All that stuff you want? That thing you think is sacred - I'm going to toss it over my shoulder and make fun of you for thinking it's important.
Wednesday BO numbers: STAR8 $21.5m (down 22.4%)/$444.8 total; JUMNJ $15.1m (down 11.7%) $104.2m total Dec 28, 08:50
Tom, what a math wiz. PJ going to SW now with the family. {nm} Dec 28, 09:35
Haha, PJ :) {nm} Dec 28, 10:04
Weekend 3 wont drop much, should easily top rogue one's $50m 3rd wkend {nm} Dec 28, 09:46
why would it drop 50% this WE? Rogue One dropped 22.5% and TFA 39.5% in their 3rd weekends, and this is NYE weekend {nm} Dec 28, 09:47
STAR8 should increase this weekend, though not as much as other films. {nm} Dec 28, 09:49
And yes the calendar. But Last Year ROG fell 29% from Christmas to New Year's. Passengers and Sing increased {nm} Dec 28, 10:08
Only reason the WOM is mixed is a small group of trolls trying to ruin everyone’s fun. {nm} Dec 28, 13:33
Definitely not a small group. Everyone I work with will not shut up complaining about everything wrong with TLJ. Dec 28, 15:22
TLJ works as a movie you don't think too much about, but as part of an existing universe is where it falters Dec 29, 08:16
the Star Wars subreddit seems about 50/50 whenever I glance at the threads...some even re-watched it Dec 28, 19:04
Rian Johnson killed the story, sorry, it's just awful.. Almost fell asleep the first 2 hours, then wanted a refund. {nm} Dec 30, 01:33
Solid for JUMNJ. {nm} Dec 28, 09:43
Those Jumanji gains tho 🤗 {nm} Dec 28, 09:46
BOG Estimating $200m+ by end of run Dec 28, 10:01
If it follows more or less the Night at the Museum route, this will delist at more than 200M {nm} Dec 28, 10:13
Apparently people really like Amy Pond's stomach. :P {nm} Dec 28, 12:28