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You need to take 3D into account as well; $85m would mean $65-70m for a normal Shrek {nm}

Posted by: xiayun on May 17, 11:16 in response to Antibody's post $121M - $85M = 36/121 = 30%. Shrek 3 didn't have legs...

MTC: 5/21 notfabio May 17, 10:40

No RS yet. {nm} notfabio May 17, 10:43

85 for Shrek? Am I reading that right? Figuring in 3D/IMAX prices, that number would represent a 45-50% drop in audience from SHREK 3 OW... {nm} ShawnMR May 17, 10:46

Tracking is never very useful when it comes to kids' movies. {nm} secretstalker May 17, 11:05

I hate this day on the exchange. People are back on forth on the more expensive stocks - could be since the weekend was such a wash... ? {nm} Facto May 17, 11:46

Have I mentioned the part about playing the players? I have? Carry on. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 12:07

I have known about playing the players always. It's just that today is more flip-floppy and idiotic than most days. And I mentioned a hypoth Facto May 17, 12:12

You sound frustrated. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 12:13

Yeah.. Is Monday the day that MTC and RS usually comes? Cause they're both here now. I thought it was Wednesdays... {nm} Facto May 17, 12:23

It varies, I think IIRC, it has been coming in on Sundays from time to time. But I seem to recall it usually being today. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 12:26

K, thanks. My bad, then. {nm} Facto May 17, 13:13

$121M - $85M = 36/121 = 30%. Shrek 3 didn't have legs and did less than $120M than 2. If the trend continues... {nm} Antibody May 17, 11:13

You need to take 3D into account as well; $85m would mean $65-70m for a normal Shrek xiayun May 17, 11:16

Shrek 3 also sucked. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 11:16

From what I've heard, reviews should be slightly better.. though there's still the wear/tear of having a fourth movie... secretstalker May 17, 11:18

I've managed to convince myself the franchise skipped #3 and went directly from #2 to #4. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 11:22

It more than sucked. The fact that they are stopping here and not doing part 5... dvsinla May 17, 11:22

It was still successful and I think the key to these movies at this point is that there's a namebrand value secretstalker May 17, 11:16

And if RS still has Shrek at mid-$90m or higher, that woul spell trouble for Shrek; I'm not necessarily surprised though xiayun May 17, 10:55

What was final MTC/RS for previous Shrek films? Also, is it possible both are over-correcting after over-shooting IM2? {nm} ShawnMR May 17, 11:00

MTC for SHREK 3: $105m, actual $122.5m {nm} marek66 May 17, 11:41

Thanks, helpful indeed, and supports what SS hinted at. {nm} Facto May 17, 11:49

RS 5/21 Phatcat May 17, 12:19

That's seems that might be a more realistic number. {nm} Hooray360 May 17, 12:34

Thanks. Do they include estimate for future ones as well? {nm} GMov May 17, 12:47

RS 5/21 Future Phatcat May 17, 14:31

Thanks {nm} GMov May 17, 14:35

RS 5/21 Future - Tagging for Reference numbersix_99 May 17, 14:45

That seems about right for all though I can't see MARMA beating GREEK... but who knows? {nm} secretstalker May 17, 15:06

I think it will be somewhere in between. {nm} secretstalker May 17, 15:59

MTC and RS 5/21 - Tagging for Reference numbersix_99 May 17, 12:59





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