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Wednesday openers almost always do between 2 and 5 times the Wednesday number for the first Friday to Sunday.

Posted by: shadowking (a.k.a shadowking13) on Jun 24, 10:52 in response to bloopster's post How is this a guaranteed short?

Even with no Thursday drop and 5x the Wednesday number, it's still a 25 point short.

 

The only exceptions to this range are fan boy/girl flicks that can come in a little under 2x (like TWLI3 is almost certain to do next week) and kid flicks that open during the school year like SHRK2 and POLAR that have done well above 5x.  KNDAY is not a kid flick.

 

I can see an arguement that due to the late move to Wednesday and the lack of any real reason for frontloading that it may come in a bit above 5x, but it still looks like at least a 15 point short at the most optimistic.

Deadline: [KNDAY] Disappointing" $3.6 million {nm} secretstalker Jun 24, 08:03

Sorry... stubby pinkie hit "Return" too early... Link inside secretstalker Jun 24, 08:03

ERC twitters $3.8m - about $10m less than TS3 {nm} marek66 Jun 24, 08:12

But I wouldn't put the cart before the horse on this one... it never was going to be a rush-out-and-see type of movie. secretstalker Jun 24, 08:17

That said, I can't imagine it doing more than $20 million over the three-day weekend and it's a short regardless. {nm} secretstalker Jun 24, 08:17

A somewhat sizeable one at that... {nm} Facto Jun 24, 09:32

Offhand, can you think of some Wednesday openers that increased on Thursday? {nm} Rolling_Thunder Jun 24, 08:18

Men in Black increased 1.2 %, a couple of movies stayed basically flat: marek66 Jun 24, 08:38

All is not Lost! Karthick24 Jun 24, 08:38

Tom's Scientology Buddy Karthick24 Jun 24, 08:44

Couldn't you argue that there's far more films being released these days and those kind of legs are rarer? {nm} numbersix_99 Jun 24, 08:47

Until July 16th Karthick24 Jun 24, 08:56

How is this a guaranteed short? bloopster Jun 24, 10:01

2.2 multiplier. {nm} sonic_death_monkey Jun 24, 10:11

Not for KNDAY, no... {nm} Facto Jun 24, 10:14

Wednesday openers almost always do between 2 and 5 times the Wednesday number for the first Friday to Sunday. shadowking Jun 24, 10:52

good to have you back. Hope to see your saturday analysis again someday {nm} gogreen Jun 24, 11:06

It's very difficult to get 100% Thurs-to-Friday increase in late June, regardless of the genre {nm} xiayun Jun 24, 11:18

Agreed.... Karthick24 Jun 24, 11:55

But that'll still be a sizeable short since the first two days won't get multiplied {nm} xiayun Jun 24, 12:28

Bada-bing, bada-boom..... *Ksschhh!* {nm} Facto Jun 24, 12:34

Tom Cruise curse Yowster Jun 24, 20:18





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The Final (MISS8) 46 174.28 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 1 252.99 (0.00)          Mission: Impossible - The Final (MISS8) 34 174.28 (0.00)          Gabby's Dollhouse: The Movie (GABYD) 2491 20.18 (+0.02)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.72 (+0.72)          Big Thunder Mountain (BTMTN) 150000 24.41 (+0.14)          Big Thunder Mountain (BTMTN) 150000 24.41 (+0.14)          The Friend (FREND) 150000 4.16 (+0.18)          The Friend (FREND) 150000 4.16 (+0.18)          Fast X Part 2 aka Fast & Furious (FAF11) 150000 105.09 (+0.98)          Fast X Part 2 aka Fast & Furious (FAF11) 150000 105.09 (+0.98)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 150000 35.09 (-0.10)          Warfare (WARFR) 149999 29.80 (-0.31)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 150000 19.74 (-0.91)          Cold Storage (CLDST) 150000 3.94 (-0.52)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 49999 19.74 (-0.91)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 125000 19.74 (-0.91)          Ariana Grande (AGRAN) 150 108.10 (0.00)          Wicked: For Good (WCKD2) 400 321.36 (0.00)          Emma Stone (ESTON) 85 45.19 (0.00)          Jennifer Coolidge (JCOOL) 325 37.14 (0.00)          Disney's Snow White (SNWHT) 200 96.47 (-0.01)          Jack Black (JBLAC) 500 181.60 (+0.01)          Big Thunder Mountain (BTMTN) 100 24.41 (+0.14)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 100 313.43 (0.00)          Jayme Lawson (JLAWS) 25000 80.83 (+0.25)          Cold Storage (CLDST) 150000 3.94 (-0.52)          Cold Storage (CLDST) 150000 3.94 (-0.52)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 150000 19.74 (-0.91)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 150000 19.74 (-0.91)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 5.05 (+0.31)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 5.05 (+0.31)          The Moment (MOMNT) 150000 15.68 (+0.79)          The Moment (MOMNT) 150000 15.68 (+0.79)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.72 (+0.72)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 25000 19.74 (-0.91)          Mission: Impossible - 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The Final (MISS8) 46 174.28 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 1 252.99 (0.00)          Mission: Impossible - The Final (MISS8) 34 174.28 (0.00)          Gabby's Dollhouse: The Movie (GABYD) 2491 20.18 (+0.02)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.72 (+0.72)          Big Thunder Mountain (BTMTN) 150000 24.41 (+0.14)          Big Thunder Mountain (BTMTN) 150000 24.41 (+0.14)          The Friend (FREND) 150000 4.16 (+0.18)          The Friend (FREND) 150000 4.16 (+0.18)          Fast X Part 2 aka Fast & Furious (FAF11) 150000 105.09 (+0.98)          Fast X Part 2 aka Fast & Furious (FAF11) 150000 105.09 (+0.98)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          Tangled (TANGL) 150000 68.73 (+0.77)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 150000 35.09 (-0.10)          Warfare (WARFR) 149999 29.80 (-0.31)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 150000 19.74 (-0.91)          Cold Storage (CLDST) 150000 3.94 (-0.52)