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Perhaps. Somehow I doubt, though, that a very high-consept sci-fi thriller would be the one?

Posted by: Facto on Jul 12, 11:43 in response to Rolling_Thunder's post MTC has been solid all summer (outside of DESME), but one...

Inception will most likely be no 300 or Fast & Furious 4 -like breakout hit - or could it? Few if any original material/non-established entity, high-concept sci-fi actioners have opened to the tune of what Inception is priced at. Some box office prognosticators will likely do some comparison work re: Minority Report, or the Matrix. We'll see.

Critics laud it, but also mention it's a bit challenging.

I'm open for any development, though. There's certainly a lot of marketing for it, it's got Leo and it's directed by someone who in his previous motion feature pulled a rather pretty opening weekend (ahem.. ). So who knows. I know I'm looking forward to it.

Better hope the MTC/RS theories are untrue: MTC says [INCPT] 48 [SORAP] 33 (5 days... so I guess that's higher than RS?) {nm} secretstalker Jul 12, 11:05

Where did you get this information? {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 11:09

From notfabio {nm} secretstalker Jul 12, 11:13

Can anyone else confirm these numbers? No offense intended, secretstalker...it just seems like a hugely improbably coincidence to me. {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 12:23

Disregard. I've had the numbers confirmed. The MTC number is legit. {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 12:50

Apology accepted. :P {nm} secretstalker Jul 12, 13:52

Haha, sorry ss. Like I said, I wasn't intending any offense. You have to admit that was one hell of a coincidence. .00069% chance ShawnMR Jul 12, 16:23

the two are too close on SORAP for the rule to come in play, but darn it, definitely disappointed in the INCPT number xiayun Jul 12, 11:18

horlicks' Twitter analysis seems to point to both RS and MTC being way wrong. {nm} secretstalker Jul 12, 11:19

Has he adjusted for fanboy frenzy yet? Facto Jul 12, 11:36

I do expect it to have a very high Tweets ratio given Nolan's online fanbase xiayun Jul 12, 11:37

MTC has been solid all summer (outside of DESME), but one would figure they have to blow one pretty bad soon. {nm} Rolling_Thunder Jul 12, 11:21

Perhaps. Somehow I doubt, though, that a very high-consept sci-fi thriller would be the one? Facto Jul 12, 11:43

I posted a joke post about this on another forum this morning. I cited those *exact* numbers, I kid you not. Are you sure this isn't bad ShawnMR Jul 12, 11:21

Can anyone else confirm these numbers? No offense intended, secretstalker...it just seems like a hugely improbably coincidence to me. {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 11:43

If there is a equally likely "reasonable" range of guesses of 50-90 and 20-50 for the two movies, p=.00067 to pick any specific #s randomly. {nm} lukesed Jul 12, 12:51

Haha. Well, I guess this was that .00067... sigh. {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 12:58

By some cosmic freak accident, Shawn's brain got connected to Paul the Prognosticating Octopus (in Oberhausen) for a few secs earlier today! {nm} Facto Jul 12, 12:59

That, or I just Dom Cobb'd the numbers out of secretstalker's head. lol {nm} ShawnMR Jul 12, 13:02

As Zappa once said, it's strange to be alive... ;-) {nm} Facto Jul 12, 13:10

I've been one of the more pessimistic people here regarding INCPT's opening weekend potential, but even I think that is a bit low. {nm} shadowking Jul 12, 14:13

Maybe it's just NYC, but I walk down the street and hear people talking about how much they want to see this movie. badvladdy Jul 12, 14:48

A Talk Radio Station In Illinois Has Been Busting A Gut Saying They Have To See This Movie thepizzaguy Jul 13, 13:00

Sorry for the dumb question, but what is RS & MTC? {nm} Carcharodon Jul 14, 10:30

I've lost quite a lot based on tracking this summer, I'm starting to doubt their power... My main concern is the 4 weeks only window on HSX {nm} lefrench Jul 14, 11:35





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(OHHI) 10000 2.83 (-0.02)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 87 161.96 (+0.11)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 88 161.96 (+0.11)          Inheritance (NHTNC) 15000 0.92 (-0.02)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 898 30.69 (+1.15)          Locked (LOCKD) 25000 2.51 (-0.04)          Whalefall (WHALF) 149999 30.53 (+1.23)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 35.19 (-1.17)          Captain America: Brave New World (CAPA4.BW) 25000 12.70 (+0.07)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 150000 19.70 (+0.50)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 13.48 (+0.61)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 25000 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 1 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          Drop (DROP) 150000 27.23 (+1.25)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          Cate Blanchett (CBLAN) 24999 10.65 (-0.29)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          A Nice Indian Boy (ANIB) 150000 0.94 (-0.06)          Twinless (TWNLS) 40000 2.82 (-0.45)          Twinless (TWNLS) 10000 2.82 (-0.45)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Zach Galifianakis (ZGALI) 25000 59.05 (+0.16)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Tangled (TANGL) 50000 67.59 (+0.05)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 9200 37.80 (-0.02)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 13200 37.80 (-0.02)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.56 (-0.01)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 3000 6.30 (+0.17)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 20000 30.69 (+1.15)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 50000 13.48 (+0.61)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.93 (-0.07)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 24975 68.22 (-0.01)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 40000 2.83 (-0.02)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 10000 2.83 (-0.02)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 87 161.96 (+0.11)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 88 161.96 (+0.11)          Inheritance (NHTNC) 15000 0.92 (-0.02)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 898 30.69 (+1.15)          Locked (LOCKD) 25000 2.51 (-0.04)          Whalefall (WHALF) 149999 30.53 (+1.23)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 35.19 (-1.17)          Captain America: Brave New World (CAPA4.BW) 25000 12.70 (+0.07)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 150000 19.70 (+0.50)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 13.48 (+0.61)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 25000 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 1 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          Drop (DROP) 150000 27.23 (+1.25)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          Cate Blanchett (CBLAN) 24999 10.65 (-0.29)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          A Nice Indian Boy (ANIB) 150000 0.94 (-0.06)          Twinless (TWNLS) 40000 2.82 (-0.45)          Twinless (TWNLS) 10000 2.82 (-0.45)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Zach Galifianakis (ZGALI) 25000 59.05 (+0.16)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Tangled (TANGL) 50000 67.59 (+0.05)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 9200 37.80 (-0.02)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 13200 37.80 (-0.02)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.56 (-0.01)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 3000 6.30 (+0.17)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 20000 30.69 (+1.15)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 50000 13.48 (+0.61)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.93 (-0.07)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 24975 68.22 (-0.01)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 40000 2.83 (-0.02)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 10000 2.83 (-0.02)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 87 161.96 (+0.11)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 88 161.96 (+0.11)          Inheritance (NHTNC) 15000 0.92 (-0.02)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 898 30.69 (+1.15)          Locked (LOCKD) 25000 2.51 (-0.04)          Whalefall (WHALF) 149999 30.53 (+1.23)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 35.19 (-1.17)          Captain America: Brave New World (CAPA4.BW) 25000 12.70 (+0.07)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 150000 19.70 (+0.50)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 13.48 (+0.61)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 25000 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 1 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          Drop (DROP) 150000 27.23 (+1.25)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          Cate Blanchett (CBLAN) 24999 10.65 (-0.29)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          A Nice Indian Boy (ANIB) 150000 0.94 (-0.06)          Twinless (TWNLS) 40000 2.82 (-0.45)          Twinless (TWNLS) 10000 2.82 (-0.45)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Zach Galifianakis (ZGALI) 25000 59.05 (+0.16)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Tangled (TANGL) 50000 67.59 (+0.05)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 9200 37.80 (-0.02)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 13200 37.80 (-0.02)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.56 (-0.01)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 3000 6.30 (+0.17)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 20000 30.69 (+1.15)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 50000 13.48 (+0.61)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.93 (-0.07)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 24975 68.22 (-0.01)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 40000 2.83 (-0.02)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 10000 2.83 (-0.02)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 87 161.96 (+0.11)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 88 161.96 (+0.11)          Inheritance (NHTNC) 15000 0.92 (-0.02)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 898 30.69 (+1.15)          Locked (LOCKD) 25000 2.51 (-0.04)          Whalefall (WHALF) 149999 30.53 (+1.23)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 35.19 (-1.17)          Captain America: Brave New World (CAPA4.BW) 25000 12.70 (+0.07)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 150000 19.70 (+0.50)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 13.48 (+0.61)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 25000 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 1 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          Drop (DROP) 150000 27.23 (+1.25)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          Cate Blanchett (CBLAN) 24999 10.65 (-0.29)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          A Nice Indian Boy (ANIB) 150000 0.94 (-0.06)          Twinless (TWNLS) 40000 2.82 (-0.45)          Twinless (TWNLS) 10000 2.82 (-0.45)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Zach Galifianakis (ZGALI) 25000 59.05 (+0.16)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Tangled (TANGL) 50000 67.59 (+0.05)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 9200 37.80 (-0.02)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 13200 37.80 (-0.02)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.56 (-0.01)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 3000 6.30 (+0.17)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 1 20.15 (+0.24)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 20000 30.69 (+1.15)          The Friend (FREND) 1 3.98 (-0.01)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 25000 6.30 (+0.17)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 50000 13.48 (+0.61)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 1 0.93 (-0.07)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.93 (-0.07)          Rachel Zegler (RZEGL) 24975 68.22 (-0.01)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 40000 2.83 (-0.02)          Oh, Hi! (OHHI) 10000 2.83 (-0.02)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 87 161.96 (+0.11)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 88 161.96 (+0.11)          Inheritance (NHTNC) 15000 0.92 (-0.02)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 898 30.69 (+1.15)          Locked (LOCKD) 25000 2.51 (-0.04)          Whalefall (WHALF) 149999 30.53 (+1.23)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 35.19 (-1.17)          Captain America: Brave New World (CAPA4.BW) 25000 12.70 (+0.07)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 150000 19.70 (+0.50)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 13.48 (+0.61)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          Deliver Me from Nowhere (DMFNW) 150000 30.69 (+1.15)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 25000 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          John Malkovich (JMALK) 1 7.95 (+0.06)          Whalefall (WHALF) 150000 30.53 (+1.23)          Drop (DROP) 150000 27.23 (+1.25)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          Cate Blanchett (CBLAN) 24999 10.65 (-0.29)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 150000 1.93 (-0.07)          A Nice Indian Boy (ANIB) 150000 0.94 (-0.06)          Twinless (TWNLS) 40000 2.82 (-0.45)          Twinless (TWNLS) 10000 2.82 (-0.45)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          Fing (FING) 150000 5.86 (+0.07)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Zach Galifianakis (ZGALI) 25000 59.05 (+0.16)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 150000 68.64 (+0.32)          Tangled (TANGL) 50000 67.59 (+0.05)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 9200 37.80 (-0.02)          Xolo Mariduena (XMARI) 13200 37.80 (-0.02)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.56 (-0.01)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          The Phoenician Scheme (TPSCH) 2000 20.15 (+0.24)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 3000 6.30 (+0.17)