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I like HSX, but it needs to expand beyond the U.S. Box Office

Posted by: halkells on Dec 03, 21:37

I like HSX, but it needs to expand beyond the U.S. Box Office.  Maybe streaming views?  Not just the U.S. but the global box office?  Music streams?  Podcast streams?  Assuming the necessary data were open and available.

Here are 4 reasons why I think HSX needs to innovate and expand beyond the U.S. Box Office:

  1. HSX traffic has fallen very far since 2004.  Source: Google Trends, https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=hollywood%20stock%20exchange,hsx
  2. As long COVID-19 is reducing box office (see: Tenet) and streaming is preventing a huge number of movies from release (see: CTAM2, Witches, all 2021 Warner Bros. movies), betting against all movies or actors doing well is the only profitable strategy.  Right now, no trader is profiting more with any other strategy; just look at the Forum.  The whole market is spiraling downward.
  3. The market will hit bottom and start to recover, probably in mid or late 2021, but the recovery will be incomplete.  Even when movie theaters do reopen widely post-pandemic, home streaming and the loss of the exclusive theatrical release is a systemic blow to the U.S. Box Office.  Lots of Americans will be watching at home.  The Box Office is shrinking and becoming less interesting, permanently.
  4. Even if HSX is called an "entertainment market," it is still heavily Box Office centric.  Only one of the main types of securities (derivatives) ever talks about something non-movie related such as TV shows or political events.  All the others (movie stocks, StarBonds, and movie funds) are 100% U.S. Box Office-related.  People here only really talk only about the U.S. Box Office (see Forums).  Becoming a true "entertainment market" has not really been tried yet.





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         Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 75000 17.41 (+1.18)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 30000 119.65 (+1.60)          Twinless (TWNLS) 75000 2.76 (-0.02)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 75000 5.63 (-0.62)          The Strangers: Chapter 3 (STRN5) 149999 9.46 (+0.41)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 75000 7.95 (-0.33)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 74999 7.95 (-0.33)          My Ex-Friend's Wedding (MEXFW) 149999 16.16 (+0.85)          Fing (FING) 74999 6.09 (-0.05)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 12500 61.03 (-0.24)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 149999 7.64 (-0.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 50000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 20000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 75000 14.35 (-1.06)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          The Thing with Feathers (TWFTH) 149999 4.75 (-0.23)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 149999 20.41 (-0.07)          The Roses (TROSE) 149999 18.59 (+1.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 149999 14.64 (-0.54)          Bride Hard (BRIDH) 149999 4.41 (-0.04)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 149999 13.48 (+0.53)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.68 (+0.68)          Daisy Ridley (DRIDL) 25000 27.57 (-0.12)          The Roses (TROSE) 150000 18.59 (+1.00)          Eddington (EDNGT) 150000 21.72 (-0.62)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 75000 217.31 (-0.41)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.77 (+0.66)          Jenna Ortega (JORTE) 25000 75.42 (-0.25)          Vincent D'Onofrio (VDONO) 100 12.99 (+0.20)          Thomas Mann (THOMA) 100 23.97 (+0.12)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 11 380.78 (-0.49)          Imogen Poots (IPOOT) 25000 4.56 (-0.10)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 20000 119.65 (+1.60)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 20.68 (+0.68)          Enemies (ENMES) 75460 20.68 (+0.68)          The Six Billion Dollar Man (6MILL) 149990 14.60 (-0.07)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 150000 380.78 (-0.49)          Sinners (SINER) 75000 112.15 (-0.41)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 112.15 (-0.41)          Tornado (TRNDO) 1 2.01 (0.00)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 75000 6.21 (+0.38)          Another Simple Favor (ASFA2) 150000 4.12 (+0.44)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 75000 17.41 (+1.18)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 30000 119.65 (+1.60)          Twinless (TWNLS) 75000 2.76 (-0.02)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 75000 5.63 (-0.62)          The Strangers: Chapter 3 (STRN5) 149999 9.46 (+0.41)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 75000 7.95 (-0.33)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 74999 7.95 (-0.33)          My Ex-Friend's Wedding (MEXFW) 149999 16.16 (+0.85)          Fing (FING) 74999 6.09 (-0.05)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 12500 61.03 (-0.24)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 149999 7.64 (-0.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 50000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 20000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 75000 14.35 (-1.06)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          The Thing with Feathers (TWFTH) 149999 4.75 (-0.23)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 149999 20.41 (-0.07)          The Roses (TROSE) 149999 18.59 (+1.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 149999 14.64 (-0.54)          Bride Hard (BRIDH) 149999 4.41 (-0.04)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 149999 13.48 (+0.53)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.68 (+0.68)          Daisy Ridley (DRIDL) 25000 27.57 (-0.12)          The Roses (TROSE) 150000 18.59 (+1.00)          Eddington (EDNGT) 150000 21.72 (-0.62)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 75000 217.31 (-0.41)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.77 (+0.66)          Jenna Ortega (JORTE) 25000 75.42 (-0.25)          Vincent D'Onofrio (VDONO) 100 12.99 (+0.20)          Thomas Mann (THOMA) 100 23.97 (+0.12)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 11 380.78 (-0.49)          Imogen Poots (IPOOT) 25000 4.56 (-0.10)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 20000 119.65 (+1.60)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 20.68 (+0.68)          Enemies (ENMES) 75460 20.68 (+0.68)          The Six Billion Dollar Man (6MILL) 149990 14.60 (-0.07)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 150000 380.78 (-0.49)          Sinners (SINER) 75000 112.15 (-0.41)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 112.15 (-0.41)          Tornado (TRNDO) 1 2.01 (0.00)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 75000 6.21 (+0.38)          Another Simple Favor (ASFA2) 150000 4.12 (+0.44)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 75000 17.41 (+1.18)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 30000 119.65 (+1.60)          Twinless (TWNLS) 75000 2.76 (-0.02)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 75000 5.63 (-0.62)          The Strangers: Chapter 3 (STRN5) 149999 9.46 (+0.41)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 75000 7.95 (-0.33)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 74999 7.95 (-0.33)          My Ex-Friend's Wedding (MEXFW) 149999 16.16 (+0.85)          Fing (FING) 74999 6.09 (-0.05)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 12500 61.03 (-0.24)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 149999 7.64 (-0.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 50000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 20000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 75000 14.35 (-1.06)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          The Thing with Feathers (TWFTH) 149999 4.75 (-0.23)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 149999 20.41 (-0.07)          The Roses (TROSE) 149999 18.59 (+1.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 149999 14.64 (-0.54)          Bride Hard (BRIDH) 149999 4.41 (-0.04)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 149999 13.48 (+0.53)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.68 (+0.68)          Daisy Ridley (DRIDL) 25000 27.57 (-0.12)          The Roses (TROSE) 150000 18.59 (+1.00)          Eddington (EDNGT) 150000 21.72 (-0.62)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 75000 217.31 (-0.41)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.77 (+0.66)          Jenna Ortega (JORTE) 25000 75.42 (-0.25)          Vincent D'Onofrio (VDONO) 100 12.99 (+0.20)          Thomas Mann (THOMA) 100 23.97 (+0.12)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 11 380.78 (-0.49)          Imogen Poots (IPOOT) 25000 4.56 (-0.10)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 20000 119.65 (+1.60)          Enemies (ENMES) 5000 20.68 (+0.68)          Enemies (ENMES) 75460 20.68 (+0.68)          The Six Billion Dollar Man (6MILL) 149990 14.60 (-0.07)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 150000 380.78 (-0.49)          Sinners (SINER) 75000 112.15 (-0.41)          Sinners (SINER) 10000 112.15 (-0.41)          Tornado (TRNDO) 1 2.01 (0.00)          Place to Be (PLCTB) 75000 6.21 (+0.38)          Another Simple Favor (ASFA2) 150000 4.12 (+0.44)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 75000 17.41 (+1.18)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 30000 119.65 (+1.60)          Twinless (TWNLS) 75000 2.76 (-0.02)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 75000 5.63 (-0.62)          The Strangers: Chapter 3 (STRN5) 149999 9.46 (+0.41)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 75000 7.95 (-0.33)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 74999 7.95 (-0.33)          My Ex-Friend's Wedding (MEXFW) 149999 16.16 (+0.85)          Fing (FING) 74999 6.09 (-0.05)          The Sims Movie (TSIMS) 12500 61.03 (-0.24)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          Clika (CLIKA) 150000 14.64 (-0.54)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 149999 7.64 (-0.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 50000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 20000 14.35 (-1.06)          Sovereign (SOVRN) 150000 4.56 (-0.57)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 75000 14.35 (-1.06)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          The Thing with Feathers (TWFTH) 149999 4.75 (-0.23)          Lunik Heist (LUNIK) 150000 17.41 (+1.18)          After the Hunt (AFTHU) 149999 20.41 (-0.07)          The Roses (TROSE) 149999 18.59 (+1.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 149999 14.64 (-0.54)          Bride Hard (BRIDH) 149999 4.41 (-0.04)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 149999 13.48 (+0.53)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.68 (+0.68)          Daisy Ridley (DRIDL) 25000 27.57 (-0.12)          The Roses (TROSE) 150000 18.59 (+1.00)          Eddington (EDNGT) 150000 21.72 (-0.62)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 14.35 (-1.06)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 75000 217.31 (-0.41)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.77 (+0.66)          Jenna Ortega (JORTE) 25000 75.42 (-0.25)          Vincent D'Onofrio (VDONO) 100 12.99 (+0.20)          Thomas Mann (THOMA) 100 23.97 (+0.12)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 11 380.78 (-0.49)