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I don't know if Henson would really be disappointed...

Posted by: LanceStorm22 on Jun 23, 19:22 in response to Dave3626's post Jim always focused on the positive, and the heartfelt....

As someone already said, he was beginning to explore darker themes in movies, it's also fairly obvious that if he had ever intended to do straight up puppet noir that's R-rated, he wasn't going to get the funding for it in the 80s, people weren't really going to accept those kind of things in the 80s and early 90s, just look at Lucas' PG but extremely inappropriate Howard the Duck and Cool World.  Roger Rabbit walked a line, but didn't seem to ever completely cross it.

South Park opened up the profane cartoon to adults and others have built on it.  Pixar, while never profane, has also made the art of animation much more acceptable for adult audiences to go and enjoy.  The Henson inspired/former Sesame Street puppeteers run Avenue Q just won the Best Musical Tony and is still running in New York.  If the story's there, I just don't see as much of a problem.

Crave: Todd Berger says they're aiming for a full-on R for Happytime Murder [HPTMR] Paul2k Jun 23, 09:07

then the film would get limited release in US at best, no matter how great it is. {nm} Peterlee Jun 23, 09:20

if it even obtains a distributor. {nm} Oleg Max Jun 23, 09:33

R-rated puppets: Team America: World Police, TED. It's been R since the project's announcement. {nm} Antibody Jun 23, 09:47

Jim's gotta be rolling in his grave. He gives us Rainbow Connection, Brian gives us puppet sex and murder. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 23, 10:09

I think it's ok, but only that they dont use any Muppets/Sesame St ones at all, even hidden or cameos islander Jun 23, 10:42

I tend to agree with you. Thing is, though, with Henson's name attached, associations will be made no matter what. Dave3626 Jun 23, 10:46

re: your IM islander Jun 23, 11:04

Hmm, Batman with no Batman.... This is getting too existential for me ;-) {nm} Dave3626 Jun 23, 13:36

Nothing special. Just another perverted movie made by perverted people. elchan Jun 23, 12:06

just curious...if someone asks a child who Elmo is, I think they would know...what happens if you ask them who Jim Henson was? Catzan Jun 23, 12:37

Dunno, but wouldn't it be a shame, if the Henson name became associated with a perverted puppet movie? {nm} elchan Jun 23, 13:03

Yes, it would. I'm with you on this one El Chan-0. I'm also still in agreement on the whole butlers-with-mind powers thing. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 23, 13:37

I am struggling with the "perverted" part... they are making an R rated movie with puppets. All R rated movies perverted? "Heat"= perverted? Catzan Jun 23, 14:56

Pervert is defined, as follows, "to use wrongly or badly". Using the name of Henson's name in connection with puppets elchan Jun 23, 15:06

Gotcha...when using the word rooted in pervert, creates some other connotations. Are they trying to create a sensation just for the sake of? Catzan Jun 23, 15:13

Or is Brian Henson exploring other creative opportunities that Jim Henson never thought to? Catzan Jun 23, 15:16

If he had any respect for what Jim Henson achieved, he would not use the name Henson in connection with such a movie. {nm} elchan Jun 23, 15:24

Jim always focused on the positive, and the heartfelt. Not that he and Oz and the rest were completely goody-goody, but Dave3626 Jun 23, 17:13

I don't know if Henson would really be disappointed... LanceStorm22 Jun 23, 19:22

I haven't got a problems with using puppets in an R rated movie. Just don't start associating the Henson name with it. elchan Jun 24, 06:21

But the thing is, you started out talking about the movie being perverted because of Puppets as much or more than mentioning Henson, then LanceStorm22 Jun 24, 21:05

But we already have Meet The Feebles. How could you top that? {nm} Jane_Citizen Jun 23, 17:49





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