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Posted by: KalElFan (a.k.a del_TOM_KalElFan) on Jan 15, 06:40 in response to Moviesnob's post I thought saying Film District wasnt bought by or is a...

You're in this "admit you're wrong" and "don't understand" mode, which you did zero to demonstrate on anything upthread. Quite the opposite, by evading the question and creating straw men and being aggressive and snarky in the process. After getting tagged with Obtuse after doing it for four rounds, you blamed me.   I was never claiming NBCU owned or wanted to use the rights to the FilmDistrict name, I asked a question with the intent to actually rule it out. Maybe there'd be a cite, some evidence.

Your Indie knowledge only impresses if you can answer a simple question and back it up. In fairness, this latest round you did come close to giving a possible explanation. I'd already seen the cite(s) where it was mentioned (and questioned in the case of a comment on a board) that FilmDistrict had a library and asking if NBCU/Focus had or would be acquiring that.  There was no answer given.

Likewise, the reports suggest the upcoming 2014 films will be distributed by Focus, but again it's unclear if the neame FilmDistrict will still appear (if it's in their library or for whatever other contractual reasons) along with Focus Features or Focus World as distributor. The problem with an "answer" is that it might contradict your other answer suggesting FilmDistrict was dead, dead, dead. The answer might be more like (for example) :

"Technically, FilmDistrict does still exist as a company because of its library and conceivably other co-production deals it might start up if it ever gets funding again. The other two founding parties still have their hooks into the carcass and could decide to give it another go. I asked [George, whatever the source is] and he said that was the deal -- no "FilmDistrict" name rights for NBCU/Focus. Who knows, someday maybe it'll rise from the ashes like Lionsgate and become a big fraking billion-dollar deal!"

Now see, here's where you come out with some lame "You obviously don't know anything about business and business deals! No way NBCU would ever allow a deal where FilmDistrict could ever start competing against them again in distribution or production" and yada yada yada.  And I could counter with "You're pulling it out your a$$ again Moviesnob.  Show or at least cite me evidence or a source, because deals have two sides and you have no fraking clue otherwise what the deal was. Any business may have a reason to agree to A, B, or C depending on the overall deal."

Y: The poster for Walk of Shame [WOSHM] has Focus World, rather than Focus Features. Trailer tomorrow. Antibody Jan 14, 12:56

nice catch, although i dont know if that means the same thing it used to mean {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 12:58

The other FilmDistrict holdover AWODT got Focus Features. {nm} Antibody Jan 14, 13:02

i wonder if they regret selling off OCULU now {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 13:07

Good poster, but Focus Features has a few mid-range box office movies and per Wiki is still NBC Universal. Focus World... (more) KalElFan Jan 14, 13:43

Since Focus isnt Focus anymore, it might be something more than that, but yes, I was referring to Focus World being digital releases {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 13:49

It's still Focus Features, right? NBC Universal just folded FilmDistrict and some of its execs into it. {nm} KalElFan Jan 14, 14:05

Only in name. The old Focus would never release AWODT or WOSHM. {nm} Antibody Jan 14, 14:06

and 95% of the focus employees were let go {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:09

Is NBCUniversal still releasing under the FilmDistrict label? If not, then it would seem Focus Features is more than twice as big now. {nm} KalElFan Jan 14, 14:14

Film District is gone and was never a part of NBC Uni {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:17

Yes I know. By "still releasing" I meant do they still see value in releasing under the name versus just using Focus Features. {nm} KalElFan Jan 14, 14:20

You can't release through a company or name you dont own. If you could, I would release my movies under Marvel :-) {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:23

Sometimes I think certain people around here are willfully obtuse. I KNOW NBCU JUST BOUGHT FILMDISTRICT. The question was... KalElFan Jan 14, 14:27

OK, I'll be blunt. Film District is gone, shut down, out of existence. Never will be heard from again. It is not, nor has ever been bought Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:34

Here are a few links and quotes.... KalElFan Jan 14, 14:56

I really dont want to go back and forth on this with you. Its always this way with you. I gonna say this one last time. Moviesnob Jan 14, 15:03

No transaction! Got it! NBCU just magically absorbed all things FilmDistrict. Consider this Moviesnob... KalElFan Jan 14, 15:16

well, I will apologize if my attitude offended. I dont know where. I was even playful at one point (thats why i added the :-)) Moviesnob Jan 14, 15:28

Since you asked... KalElFan Jan 14, 19:59

I thought saying Film District wasnt bought by or is a part Comcast (NBC/Uni) and saying you cant release something under a name you dont Moviesnob Jan 14, 21:17

Again... KalElFan Jan 15, 06:40

Focus is now releasing genre films like FilmDistrict, not arthouse like the old Focus. {nm} Antibody Jan 14, 14:19

Well, they released The World's End, $26M domestic box office. So maybe they were broadening before the shakeup? {nm} KalElFan Jan 14, 14:10

That's a legacy from wehn Universal still had Rogue, which released SHAUN and Hot Fuzz. {nm} Antibody Jan 14, 14:15

Well, regardless -- if we've established NBCU isn't using "FilmDistrict" then Focus Features has indeed changed -- it got >2x bigger. {nm} KalElFan Jan 14, 14:23

Focus was significantly more staffed than FD {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:24

Huh? Most of the oFocus employees are gone. They're not making arthouse films. {nm} Antibody Jan 14, 14:25

In 2013, per BoM, FilmDistrict had more than twice the Focus box office... (more including link) ... KalElFan Jan 14, 15:11

you could point to 50 Shades as the beginning of when Comcast was changing things at Focus. {nm} Moviesnob Jan 14, 14:19

"Just in case anyone thought this was one of those crappy art films" {nm} Focus World Jan 14, 13:56

It's not so much that anymore, as much as what if anything "Focus World" signifies now. For example... KalElFan Jan 14, 14:17

most likely a radius style release in a couple hundred theatres at most {nm} notfabio Jan 14, 21:06





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