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Exactly. Simply the *fact* that they are making solo movies with female and Aftrican leads has no correlation with them being successful.

Posted by: BSmurf on Oct 15, 11:20 in response to Moviesnob's post marvel sees them selves as trailblazers, i doubt they...

Especially since there is almost ZERO familiarity in the audience for Cyborg, and no one knows who Gal Gadot is.

WB is announcing a slate of 10+ DC movies on its shareholder call. SUICD in 2016, WONDR and JLEAG 2017, FLASH and AQUMN 2018, SHAZM and RogerMore Oct 15, 09:20

(EMILL to play the Flash, TROCK confirmed as Black Adam) {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 09:26

Fritz: [EMILL] is [FLASH] 2018 Antibody Oct 15, 09:27

Awesome, he's a great actor {nm} tatoufan Oct 15, 09:39

and nearly as intimidating as D.J. Qualls {nm} charlie Oct 15, 10:01

My trade history is showing FLASH delisted today. I cannot find any news or announcements. Anyone know why? {nm} rmg427 May 26, 16:59

no new batman or superman until after 2020? thats takes some guts {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 09:29

I read this as "in addition to" their plans for Superman and Batman {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 09:33

that would make more sense, but they do mention more standalone ones for those characters, but no dates {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 09:37

but after Superman kills Batman in Dawn for Justice, nowhere for his story to really go {nm} charlie Oct 15, 09:40

you're right. from the press release Moviesnob Oct 15, 10:21

What takes more guts is that they have only 1 quasi-successful film in this incarnation of the DC Universe. They're going all-in {nm} Everyone else in the South Oct 15, 09:34

what else is WB going to spend its cash on? {nm} charlie Oct 15, 10:33

DC will be first in female solo WONDR and African-American solo in Cyborg. Will Marvel now schedule Ms. Marvel, Black Widow and BPNTH? {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:13

marvel sees them selves as trailblazers, i doubt they will react to this. There are already plans for Black Panther and Ms Marvel Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:17

But not if DC beats them to being first with a female solo superhero movie and first African-American solo superhero movie. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:20

Can't tell if you're trolling with the "First!" argument or being serious... {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:21

Serious. Fans have been riding on Marvel being unwilling to take a chance on solo female and BPNTH. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:24

Where were these "Fans" when the "first solo female superhero" movies called Elektra and Catwoman came out. Marvel and DC both tanked there {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:37

They were either waiting for a good movie, or ten years old. {nm} RogerMore Oct 15, 11:43

Elektra was Fox, not Marvel/Disney. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:46

that wont change how marvel sees themselves. Plus, whats more important to them is to do it right, not just to do it {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:26

+1 Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it should. Make it GOOD, or don't bother. Failure disguised as "progress" is still fail {nm} BSmurf Oct 15, 11:38

That's a cowardly excuse, basically saying Marvel don't know how to make a GOOD solo Female or African-American superhero movie. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:54

But they have no problems making solo movies out of their White Male superheroes. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:56

Wow -- you are reading my points completely backwards. Explanation inside: BSmurf Oct 15, 12:11

Every movie is a risk, the caveat goes without saying. The point is DC is willing to commit, but Marvel so far doesn't. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:31

We both agree that DC is "willing to commit" - when was that an issue in this thread? A better discussion is "Is it a good idea for them to BSmurf Oct 15, 12:41

i think you're misunderstanding. they want every movie to be good, but they are looking at a much bigger picture than "first" Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:59

Sorry, but it doesn't fit the plan right now is an excuse. Why weren't they in the 10-yr plan to begin with? {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:03

Because no one knew if the original IM through Avengers was going to be a success? Marvel BUILT their empire, one success at a time, which BSmurf Oct 15, 12:13

their planning, and I cant believe you havent noticed this, has had its timing in place for years. A lot of characters are set to be introed Moviesnob Oct 15, 12:48

BPNTH was hinted at in IRNM2 and had several scripts so was obviously in the plans, yet still no follow up. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 13:02

BTW, this isnt the first non white solo superhero. But why let facts get in the way of fanboy excitement! {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 13:17

You know I meant this current gen. Even then, Steel, Blade and Spawn are all WB. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 13:32

yeah, don't sacrifice your cookie-cutter comic book movies' mediocre quality at the altar of diversity, Marvel! {nm} charlie Oct 15, 11:55

Exactly. Simply the *fact* that they are making solo movies with female and Aftrican leads has no correlation with them being successful. BSmurf Oct 15, 11:20

WW and Cyborg are being introduced in SUPE2 so moviegoers will know them. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 11:22

its called hubris. I really hope BvS works {nm} Moviesnob Oct 15, 11:27

Marvel would really have to hustle to get a Captain Marvel movie out before WONDR, but plenty of time for BPNTH {nm} Rioter Oct 15, 11:47

Actually, JMOMO is Polynesian so AQUMN would be their first non-white solo superhero. {nm} Antibody Oct 15, 12:14

WB slate: [SUICD] 2016 [WONDR] 2017 [JLEAG] 2017 [AQUMN] 2018 [SHAZM] 2019 Antibody Oct 15, 09:57





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