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And if you sign up with the progressives, we'll make the world change for you! How about you admit to the kid it does suck his dad isn't {nm}

Posted by: Fitch3k on May 30, 08:03 in response to tawdryhepburn's post So, you were 8 kinds of racist in fewer characters than a...

W: Transformers brain trust led by Michael Bay and Akiva Goldsman have hired seven writers, all white males Antibody May 29, 15:37

see, even white dudes can be oppressed in Hollywood {nm} tristafé May 29, 15:42

+1 {nm} oakley77 May 29, 20:22

Should've hired some Chinese guys. {nm} MattW May 29, 16:07

They should know the target audience best. {nm} tatoufan May 29, 16:09

Not sure if serious... {nm} Antibody May 29, 17:00

So? Who complains when a sports team drafts all black athletes? {nm} Fitch3k May 29, 17:55

So, your point is... You're a racist? {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 19:56

Yeah the racist is the person who doesn't care what race anyone is and is perturbed by race being pointed out. That makes sense. {nm} Fitch3k May 29, 20:13

There is not a single piece of your initial post that wasn't entirely in line with white supremacist rhetoric. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 20:53

And your retort of "if we'd just stop pointing out obvious racism it would go away" just adds an exclamation point. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 20:54

A: your implication is that the natural state of a white man is mental while the natural state of a black man is physical ie animalistic. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 20:57

B: Your choice of comparison point to sports is suspect and cliche in and of itself. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 20:57

C: Your willful ignorance of the vast, VAST majority of the jobs - especially the plum ones - going to a specific group. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 20:58

D: Begging the question fallacy / implication of 'reverse racism' (a phrase and concept used only by bigots) {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 21:00

(Second post): E: If we'd stop talking about racism, it would go away -- repeat of playing the victim, implication of 'reverse racism' {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 21:01

F: reframing the debate to place yourself as the arbiter of justice... (more inside) tawdryhepburn May 29, 21:04

G: Also... 'all black athletes.' That's disproven if you have eyes. This is a room of ALL white men. implies a monolithic view of minorities {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 21:06

So, you were 8 kinds of racist in fewer characters than a tweet. But yeah, you're not a bigot. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 29, 21:06

Get a life! {nm} hawkfanatic2 May 29, 21:55

How about you get the facts? Tawdry's laying them out for you. {nm} CG63 May 29, 22:32

I have an awesome life. Due in large part to the fact that in my teens, I was always treated as a kid going through a hard time. (int) tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:10

I'm black and Cuban, but hope you got off on feeling morally superior for a little while, you really must have needed it. {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 04:05

What makes me uncomfortable is having race brought up like anyone is a seperate entity from person. And that the norm isn't just person. {nm} RebelScum May 30, 06:56

It makes me uncomfortable when I'm told I can't do as well on a test bc my skin and need different standards. {nm} RebelScum May 30, 06:57

It makes me uncomfortable when I'm told I need help getting a job and some industries are so beyond me I need reduced levels of entry {nm} RebelScum May 30, 06:59

It makes me feel uncomfortable when the excuse used is there needs be a larger pool of ideas, like I must have a black brain bc my skin {nm} RebelScum May 30, 07:01

My brain doesn't think any differently. I was raised in the same culture and treated the same except for individuals like you {nm} RebelScum May 30, 07:02

You're not saving me, you're not helping me, you're the ones trying to make me be and feel different. {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:04

I {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 07:42

*I'm not trying to 'save' anyone. I'm talking as a white dude, to a white dude. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 07:44

Whatever helps you sleep. But don't you white saviors, sorry allies, have protocols against denying a persons ethnicity? {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 08:07

And since we're sharing credentials: at 17, I was almost murdered by Nazi skinheads on 2 separate occasions because of my Jewish heritage. {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:25

In my nice, wealthy part of the city. 30ish miles from the 'rough' neighborhood where I went to school. #ForTheRecord {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:26

That's detestable, and an overwhelming majority of people would say so. People start to divide over whether people like those thugs have Fitch3k May 30, 09:30

Oh no, that's right I'm just an Uncle Tom, bc I don't fit your narrative and your white supremacist, sorry white superior morals, know what is to be black {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 08:09

Even granting that I am wrong about your race/ethnicity, all of my points stand because I was talking about your rhetoric. tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:12

7 writers got a job, good for them, if anyone else wanted to be one of those writers and wasn't, they need to work at being a better writer {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:06

So... you're a racist who has no idea how people actually get jobs writing movies of this size? {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 07:44

This I will concede I am not in the industry, but all other experience has shown me the only thing that matters to employers is if you can make $$$ {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 09:26

You'll have a harder time trying to change the world, than improving yourself. Just be better than all your competition {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:10

Promoting any other attitude to minorities is only going to hurt them. And that does more than make me uncomfortable, that's real racism {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:12

That's real hate, that really keeps ppl down. Just another white upper middle class system of controlling blacks {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:14

With their pseudo social science that tells them what's best for the negros. What's best is to stop keeping score. {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:16

If this was confusing, I am Fitch3k and Rebelscum (a new port when I couldn't remember my old). {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:18

FYI: Running multiple active accounts is grounds for deletion/banning. Rarely enforced, but... maybe don't brag about cheating? {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:33

Please don't misread that as a threat: admins stopped reading our blather some time ago, I bet. And I have no desire to silence anyone. tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:37

Ya know I'm going to keep going bc you are so offensive a racist and so damn self righteous about it {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:50

I volunteer with under privileged youth teaching things they don't have a dad to learn from like, tying a tie, polishing shoes {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:51

We work mostly with teens that are willing, but they get trounced on by their peers, they're sell outs, the world should change for them {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:56

The worst problem minorities face is crippling doubt, and it comes from white progressive liberals telling them the man hates them {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:59

Don't dress proper, don't speak proper, your different and that would be conforming. It operates like a cult, go after low esteem targets {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 08:00

From broken families, and let them think all their problems is the world's fault and the world needs to change not them. {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 08:01

And if you sign up with the progressives, we'll make the world change for you! How about you admit to the kid it does suck his dad isn't Fitch3k May 30, 08:03

Around to teach him how to tie a tie, it's not ok that dad isn't around, but he can still learn and better his life. {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 08:04

If you're a minority and it upsets you, you need to look at yourself and stop being reactionary {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:08

2 things... take it to the life forum, and use the ADDITIONAL MESSAGE area in the form. There is no need to post every sentence in front. {nm} Rocket123 aka PVL Admin May 30, 11:07

I apologize for the length of this. I was using a clear A/B/C/D format as a rhetorical tool and then... Well... {nm} tawdryhepburn May 30, 11:51

Lol black Cuban hispanic {nm} mike255 May 30, 05:36

....and the real racist finally pipes up! {nm} BSmurf May 30, 06:34

I don't even know what this is meant to imply? {nm} Fitch3k May 30, 07:26

Now, now. RebelScum says that he is Black and Cuban. I'll accept that. (int) tawdryhepburn May 30, 08:20





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