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Yeah, there are so many assumptions in there that it's ridiculous.

Posted by: ndmaster on Dec 30, 20:42 in response to professor zovek's post ha ha, not if you're the bondholders when your payments...

That's a big if. I'm not a bondholder. Odd perspective to bring in, since, the ONLY way they have to pay bondholders is their subscription income, right? Right?

Again, you're assuming they will lose their monopoly, which I would argue isn't even a monopoly, its just a market that they dominate (there are other subscription streaming services, I think you mentioned a competitor...)

So, my question to you is simple: How will they service the growing debt load (one of many growing expenses) if they do not grow their subscriber base?

I would love to hear your answer.

TY, Moviesnob

Netflix tweets that Bird Box was watched by a record 45M+ accounts in the first 7 days warcraft86 Dec 28, 18:07

as Franklin Leonard tweets, "So many questions" professor zovek Dec 28, 21:42

2: about 140M accounts, so almost 1 in 3. (Which seems unrealistic it would be that many) islndr Dec 28, 23:33

There is a zero chance any of this information from Netflix is right. {nm} LaForza Dec 29, 23:03

What a joke. This makes me sick. More "facts" from these film clowns, this time about how Birdbox is bigger than Aquaman. OK, sure. goodvibe61 Dec 29, 00:43

If Roma and Bird Box are Netflix future, that future is relatively dim DTXbro Dec 29, 11:59

All they have to do is get subscribers. If what they produce brings in more subscriptions, they could care less what studios do. {nm} ndmaster Dec 29, 19:18

yes and no. more accurately, they have to service $20b in outstanding and ongoing debt issuances to finance their content expansion {nm} professor zovek Dec 29, 22:21

A distinction without a difference. NFLX is a single revenue stream company. ndmaster Dec 30, 07:16

ha ha, not if you're the bondholders when your payments come due. Stein's Law: if a thing cannot go on forever, it will stop professor zovek Dec 30, 10:27

They are aware there's a finite number if subscribers they can get with this model they haven't gotten close to it yet so they spend {nm} Moviesnob Dec 30, 12:46

Yeah, there are so many assumptions in there that it's ridiculous. ndmaster Dec 30, 20:42

NFLX debt tradermark Dec 31, 05:18

3 of those series are on netflix and amazon prime is a distant third behind Netflix and Hulu in terms of engagement {nm} Moviesnob Dec 29, 20:09

I’m confused. I’ve heard mixed things about Bird Box but Roma is one of the best films in years. How is your statement meant to be read? {nm} MiyazakiFan Dec 30, 05:55

The DTXBroscore for Roma was D. (Which is IMO way too low, but it's his opinion) {nm} RogerMore Dec 30, 11:35

Netflix followed up to media press, that they counted 75% or more of the film viewed by any household account as a viewing. {nm} notfabio Dec 30, 13:31

I've been thinking about it and figured it had to be something like this, especially with all the account sharing {nm} OdysseusG Dec 30, 16:54





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