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Posted by: Wrath_crfd on Apr 13, 08:59 in response to DTXbro's post A dumb answer: 'Yes, I should short the call or put...

Within the last 12 months the number of calls and puts that have cashed out have exceeded the searchable limits of the functions available to us, but here goes:

Using data for 830 ish movies where calls and put derivatives have been offered to the market and only considering traders who buy at the IPO price and hold to delist.

61% of the time buying both results in a profit overall (excluding commissions).That is, the OW prediction by HSX is more than $4M away from the actual. Purely on average, within that 61%, the average profit is $120,000Ā  made up of a $10 cash out and a $0 cashout.

Buying both the call and put for movies with a strike price of 100M or over has historically had the profit chance increase to 90% AND the average profit goes by a factor of four.





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