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you're right...I thought it could get near the 40's but its not even going to break 35 now that I look at the DBO.

Posted by: Moviesnob on Sep 19, 11:50 in response to dsbman's post Only they've barely made back the film rental on...

Dont know what the foreign numbers are but they cant be big.

 

They are both $$ losers. At least TWC gets dvd for H2, but it wont be much in this market.

Quentin Tarantino sees BSTRD saving Weinstein brothers Peterlee Sep 19, 10:28

it'll make more money for Uni than TWC. Halloween 2 made more $ for TWC. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 11:23

Only they've barely made back the film rental on HALLOWEEN II thus far, so it'll be a long road uphill to make money, even w/ ancillaries. {nm} dsbman Sep 19, 11:41

you're right...I thought it could get near the 40's but its not even going to break 35 now that I look at the DBO. Moviesnob Sep 19, 11:50

You means that BSTRD and H2 are both money loser? Peterlee Sep 19, 12:20

i dont know specifics of the H2 worldwide deal. It's possible they can make their money back there. There's no way IG makes $ for TWC. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:14

you know what movie made $$ for TWC? The Collector. Paid $2 mil to make, sold for $3 mil. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:16

Not with all the negative costs, 25%+ gross participants, and only domestic theatrical. {nm} who99 Sep 19, 12:37

Not with all the negative costs, 25%+ gross participants, and only domestic theatrical. who99 Sep 19, 12:37

TWC finances 50% cost of this film, so they can have good share on this film's worldwide revenue {nm} Peterlee Sep 19, 12:43

they dontget worldwide, Uni does (and dvd). TWC gets domestic and pay tv. Keep in mind they have no output deal for pay tv too. {nm} Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:12

But according to Los Angeles Times, Universal and TWC will split the film's worldwide proceeds equally. Peterlee Sep 19, 13:38

that wasnt the original deal. TWC had its back against the wall and couldn't pay to release the film, hence uni came in. Moviesnob Sep 19, 13:42

oh... You meant that Universal advanced P&A cost of this film's US theatrical release, not TWC? Peterlee Sep 19, 13:49

both parts are bs. the P&A and partial budget was paid by uni and Liberty Media has been talking to TWC about possible DVD distribution and Moviesnob Sep 19, 14:17

let me qualify that. When TWC first needed additional funds to make IG, they reached the deal with uni that I spoke of above. Its possible Moviesnob Sep 19, 14:19

Thank you a lot. So it meant that TWC has terminated their pay-tv deal with Showtime? Peterlee Sep 19, 14:31





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A Four-Film Cinema (BEAT1) 1 84.63 (+3.22)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 1 55.62 (+0.55)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 5000 23.49 (+0.07)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          By Any Means (CI34) 2000 20.36 (+2.82)          Phoebe Waller-Bridge (PWALL) 24997 100.74 (+0.16)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 148000 171.10 (-0.48)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Ve (ASPD3) 100 196.64 (+5.63)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 3.99 (-0.62)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Splitsville (SPTSV) 150000 3.34 (+0.17)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          The Chosen: Last Supper - Part 2 (TCS52) 352 16.40 (+0.29)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          Jennifer Coolidge (JCOOL) 25000 27.59 (+0.50)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 667 248.49 (-0.01)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 4000 5.38 (-0.08)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Neighborhood Watch (NBRHW) 8000 0.73 (0.00)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          The Beatles - A Four-Film Cinema (BEAT1) 1 84.63 (+3.22)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 1 55.62 (+0.55)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 5000 23.49 (+0.07)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          By Any Means (CI34) 2000 20.36 (+2.82)          Phoebe Waller-Bridge (PWALL) 24997 100.74 (+0.16)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 148000 171.10 (-0.48)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Ve (ASPD3) 100 196.64 (+5.63)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 3.99 (-0.62)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Splitsville (SPTSV) 150000 3.34 (+0.17)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          The Chosen: Last Supper - Part 2 (TCS52) 352 16.40 (+0.29)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          Jennifer Coolidge (JCOOL) 25000 27.59 (+0.50)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 667 248.49 (-0.01)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 4000 5.38 (-0.08)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Neighborhood Watch (NBRHW) 8000 0.73 (0.00)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          The Beatles - A Four-Film Cinema (BEAT1) 1 84.63 (+3.22)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 1 55.62 (+0.55)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 5000 23.49 (+0.07)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          By Any Means (CI34) 2000 20.36 (+2.82)          Phoebe Waller-Bridge (PWALL) 24997 100.74 (+0.16)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 148000 171.10 (-0.48)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Ve (ASPD3) 100 196.64 (+5.63)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 3.99 (-0.62)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Splitsville (SPTSV) 150000 3.34 (+0.17)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          The Chosen: Last Supper - Part 2 (TCS52) 352 16.40 (+0.29)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          Jennifer Coolidge (JCOOL) 25000 27.59 (+0.50)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 667 248.49 (-0.01)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 4000 5.38 (-0.08)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Neighborhood Watch (NBRHW) 8000 0.73 (0.00)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          The Beatles - A Four-Film Cinema (BEAT1) 1 84.63 (+3.22)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 1 55.62 (+0.55)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 5000 23.49 (+0.07)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          By Any Means (CI34) 2000 20.36 (+2.82)          Phoebe Waller-Bridge (PWALL) 24997 100.74 (+0.16)          Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (STRW1) 148000 171.10 (-0.48)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 1 21.88 (+0.10)          Keeper (KEEPR) 150000 24.19 (+0.02)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Naomi Ackie (NACKI) 25000 68.05 (+3.44)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Ve (ASPD3) 100 196.64 (+5.63)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 3.99 (-0.62)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Splitsville (SPTSV) 150000 3.34 (+0.17)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          The Chosen: Last Supper - Part 2 (TCS52) 352 16.40 (+0.29)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Mike Leigh (MLEIG) 1 2.36 (-0.13)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          Jennifer Coolidge (JCOOL) 25000 27.59 (+0.50)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 3 13.15 (0.00)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Geoffrey Rush (GRUSH) 25000 34.67 (-1.55)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          Superman (SUPRM) 667 248.49 (-0.01)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 4000 5.38 (-0.08)          Ebon Moss-Bachrach (EMBAC) 25000 55.00 (0.00)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Marianne Jean-Baptiste (MJEAN) 1 14.21 (-0.03)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          Donnie Yen (DYEN) 25000 38.37 (+2.85)          Josh Lucas (JLUCA) 3 40.77 (+0.01)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Neighborhood Watch (NBRHW) 8000 0.73 (0.00)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 21.88 (+0.10)          Thank You Very Much (TYVM) 150000 1.00 (0.00)          The Beatles - A Four-Film Cinema (BEAT1) 1 84.63 (+3.22)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 1 55.62 (+0.55)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 5000 23.49 (+0.07)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)          We Are Storror (WSTOR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Holliday Grainger (HGRAI) 25000 55.62 (+0.55)          John Lithgow (JLITH) 25000 24.08 (-0.56)