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Joss Whedon's projects that I saw first are: one episode each of Angel and Buffy. After seeing those, that generally put me off the rest of his projects altogether. The reason for that is that I couldn't stand them and thought they were horrible and badly written. Thinking about it now, I had the same sort of reaction to those episodes I watched as I did to the TV show Lost: "This is absolute crap. I'm not wasting my time on this." I've already stated on here before that when he was announced as the director of The Avengers (which I was looking forward to at the time) I almost boycotted the movie because I thought it was going to completely suck like Angel and Buffy. I will admit that I was very pleasantly surprised to have been proven wrong, but it still hasn't restored my faith in his work. I find that a lot of the time he's too "edgy" and caters too much to the geeks (generally his hard-core fanbase) for my taste. The only real thing of his that I actually enjoyed apart from The Avengers was Atlantis, and honestly if I had known that he had written it before I watched it I probably would've stayed away from that one too.
Having seen what other people think of PROME and its box office prospects on opening weekend, I had another look at the all-time R-rated
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 16:21
I agree with your analysis. Now as to legs, I'm wondering, would they depend on it keeping its 3D screens for long? {nm}
slappydavid
Jun 03, 16:30
I honestly can't see it having much legs, to be honest.
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 16:41
In regards to your unnecessary Whedon slam.....
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austpow
Jun 03, 17:20
If they had made the ending he wanted, which was the aliens landing on Earth for the final battle, it would have been good.
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austpow
Jun 03, 17:20
It's not unnecessary.
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 17:41
He also was uncredited cowriiter of Speed.
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austpow
Jun 03, 18:19
I think I established my point fairly well though that generally, if Joss Whedon is involved, it will bomb or disappoint.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 18:32
As with Avengers?
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Facto
Jun 03, 18:56
I said generally. That means that there are exceptions to the rule, and I gave reasons for that in my previous comment.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 18:59
I saw that only after. My desktop died tonight, and laptop died three weeks ago. Really odd. Using really slow android/phone now. Blows.
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Facto
Jun 03, 19:17
Well, he has been busy creating/writing/producing/directing a bunch of tv shows since the late 90's, so that kinda curtailed his output.
Paul2k
Jun 03, 18:32
The reason why I'm not a fan of his is because almost none of the projects he's involved with I actually like.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 18:33
Curiousity on my part urges me to ask what youv'e seen of his, and what you didn't like about it/them. And I fully respect your opinion. :)
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Paul2k
Jun 03, 18:39
Your curiosity shall be satisfied. ;)
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 18:58
I'm hardly a geek and I loved both Buffy and Angel, not to mention Firefly and Serenity. Whedon is cerebral, Whedon is God.
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Facto
Jun 03, 19:23
I'm not going to start a religious argument with you, but I will say that you are wrong in your last statement.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 19:30
There's no accounting for taste. As for who God is, no one knows - but PROME deals with it. Cool for godless Brits, might upset Americans.
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Facto
Jun 03, 19:37
And I should also add that the attitude of Whedonites (example above) adds to my dislike of his work.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 19:34
Whedon's atheist? I don't know him well, only like what I mentioned, haven't seen it all. I.e. I'm no Whedonite.
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Facto
Jun 03, 19:44
Someone who says "Whedon is God" is a Whedonite, whether or not they care to admit it.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 19:49
Perhaps, if they mean it:-) From me, it was tongue-in-cheek, and a pun. And PROME-related.
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Facto
Jun 03, 20:02
Ah, I didn't catch that. Sorry.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 20:05
A4J, if you'll forgive me it seems like you over-reacted to too small of a sample.
DTravel
Jun 03, 21:47
I remember they were early on in the piece, within the first couple of seasons, so obviously Joss would've still been involved at that time.
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 21:54
I watched the whole of Buffy last year or the year before ...
Jane_Citizen
Jun 03, 23:40
What do you make of the strength of its opening in the UK compared to SWHTM? (Per: DL).
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second gary
Jun 03, 16:42
Foreign markets usually watch more movies in 3D than North American moviegoers do, which would add to the box office there.
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 16:50
3.4 million vs 1 million...but both #sare peanuts compared to north america.
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forlorne
Jun 03, 17:25
if people want to see the movie (unless they are under 17 in the US, and even then . . . ), they won't care about the rating
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mickpix
Jun 03, 16:46
The only real "buzz" I've heard about this movie has been primarily coming from fans of the original Alien.
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 16:57
But will the teenagers be buying Madagascar 3 tickets and sneaking in to Prometheus?
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austpow
Jun 03, 17:22
If they do it won't help Prometheus' box office take any. It'll actually boost the box office take of Madagascar 3 instead.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 17:53
Which is why I post ushers on the door to help them find Madagascar when they get lost...like those poor lost zoo occupants. =D
Catzan
Jun 03, 18:06
*in Maxwell Smart's voice* Good thinking, 99 ;)
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accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 18:12
I'm not a fanboy. I'm a Fassbenderite, and I'm always hungry for smart sci-fi.
Jane_Citizen
Jun 03, 22:18
Are you a Fassbenderite because of his acting ability or...?
accountant_4_Jesus
Jun 03, 22:29
Ehh, a bit of both ...
Jane_Citizen
Jun 04, 21:23
Good analysis. I have to agree. I want this to be good, but I just can't see it doing that well.
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Tanker
Jun 03, 16:46
The next step is to admmit you are in denial. I'm not quite there yet, myself. :)
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Jane_Citizen
Jun 03, 22:19
^^frick, admit. Sticky fingers.
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Jane_Citizen
Jun 03, 22:20
Unfortunately, I am a fan boy when it comes to Ridley Scott...so I think it looks great whatever the marketing. ;-)
Catzan
Jun 03, 17:12
Prometheus is at 79% on RT, which indicates that it is good. Fanboys seem to love this.
rtbgamer76
Jun 03, 17:18
Its flixster number, though, is only around 37-38,000. And I think we have to concede A4J
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second gary
Jun 03, 17:31
... 's point that there is a difference between the immediate anticipation for MTRX2 and the more complicated anticipation...
second gary
Jun 03, 17:33
Hahahaha.. WELL now.. As for RT, look closer. Most fresh reviews are 3/5 or 4/5. Also, the movie *is* sci-fi/horror. No doubt about it.
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Facto
Jun 03, 18:14
Analysis may be correct, but I think $55M is too low. I think it will do in the mid to high 60's and possible low 70's.
elchan
Jun 03, 19:21
Few parents should want to see PROME - especially mothers. It's potentially very off-putting to them. When you see it, you'll know why.
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Facto
Jun 03, 19:29