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the flip side is there is a black audience that has been alienated from traditional Disney production that will be empowered by this one {nm}

Posted by: Moviesnob on Dec 11, 07:14 in response to PendenteLite's post Why I can't get on board with FROGP at its current number.

Why I can't get on board with FROGP at its current number. PendenteLite Dec 11, 06:41

I hope you're wrong too. TroyPoodle Dec 11, 06:55

There's a reason doll mfg. make 'em in light and dark flavors. Kids are more likely to invest themselves in characters more like themselves. {nm} edzep Dec 11, 07:10

With all due respect, that's a load. See my message below {nm} HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:46

If it was Pocahontas, it would have had the potential of being a bit of an investment - not sure they are really comparable, but still Facto Dec 11, 06:59

And that played in approximately 700 fewer theatres... Started limited. There are some similarities, but it was a summer release. {nm} Facto Dec 11, 07:00

Why should it be about black or white? If it's a good movie, people should be able to look past the color of the characters. {nm} AgentEvil Dec 11, 07:00

Plus I have this movie LONG. It better do well. {nm} AgentEvil Dec 11, 07:00

Ha ha! Ditto! {nm} eyescovered Dec 11, 07:03

Maybe... eyescovered Dec 11, 07:01

How can this really be relevant? Precious just did quite well, and Oprah is a superstar. Obama is African-American, etc etc etc Facto Dec 11, 07:07

I hear ya... eyescovered Dec 11, 07:13

It's also opening in the weeks before Christmas which tend to be slow due to people working to earn xtra money for the holidays secretstalker Dec 11, 07:12

Probably good points. Hope nobody forgets though that this one adjusts x3 + previous.... {nm} Facto Dec 11, 07:18

Crap... I *HAD* forgotten... *sigh* {nm} secretstalker Dec 11, 07:58

the flip side is there is a black audience that has been alienated from traditional Disney production that will be empowered by this one Moviesnob Dec 11, 07:14

All the people the see Tyler Perry movies can bring their kids lapuckfan Dec 11, 09:28

While I don't doubt this country has no shortage of racism I really don't {nm} HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:16

lets try this again HuskyMiller Dec 11, 07:43

BLDSD plays into the "White guilt" fantasy. A Southern white family "saves" a poor black orphan. {nm} Antibody Dec 11, 11:42

why does the argument seem so famiiar from last year {nm} hmm Dec 11, 08:07

[KIDS] short on [FROGP] at this price as well. KidsFund Dec 11, 08:13

Personally, I just think it looks a little scary for younger kids, and a little too much voodoo. Could be a huge hit, but my kids have no SEETVFund Dec 11, 09:41





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(-0.42)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          One to One: John & Yoko (OTOJY) 150000 1.15 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 2000 20.00 (0.00)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 1 13.32 (+0.43)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 150000 0.62 (-0.38)          Enemies (ENMES) 149999 20.00 (0.00)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 376 377.10 (+4.54)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 11000 36.98 (-0.42)          Bruce Lee (BRLEE) 11000 16.96 (0.00)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 3250 153.12 (+0.88)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 42 36.98 (-0.42)          Black Phone 2 (BPHO2) 60 57.31 (+0.14)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Ethan Hawke (EHAWK) 1 30.21 (0.00)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 81 1.22 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 5000 33.37 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 100 1.22 (0.00)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Drop (DROP) 64696 20.51 (-0.42)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 5000 13.32 (+0.43)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 119 1.22 (0.00)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 200 1.22 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.03 (+2.73)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          Odessa Young (OYOUN) 310 1.17 (0.00)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 108558 218.48 (+1.11)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 1000 36.98 (-0.42)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 13.32 (+0.43)          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Lee (BRLEE) 11000 16.96 (0.00)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 3250 153.12 (+0.88)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 42 36.98 (-0.42)          Black Phone 2 (BPHO2) 60 57.31 (+0.14)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Ethan Hawke (EHAWK) 1 30.21 (0.00)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 81 1.22 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 5000 33.37 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 100 1.22 (0.00)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Drop (DROP) 64696 20.51 (-0.42)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 5000 13.32 (+0.43)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 119 1.22 (0.00)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 200 1.22 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.03 (+2.73)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          Odessa Young (OYOUN) 310 1.17 (0.00)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 108558 218.48 (+1.11)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 1000 36.98 (-0.42)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 13.32 (+0.43)          Odessa Young (OYOUN) 310 1.17 (0.00)          The Fantastic Four: First Steps (FANF2) 150000 218.69 (-2.35)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 13.32 (+0.43)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 554 36.98 (-0.42)          Tron: Ares (TRON3) 150000 129.60 (-0.66)          Don’t Let’s Go to the Dogs T (DLGDT) 20000 1.32 (+0.01)          Florian Zeller (FZELL) 99 1.11 (0.00)          Disney's Snow White (SNWHT) 100000 85.75 (-0.91)          Disney's Snow White (SNWHT) 35 85.75 (-0.91)          Florian Zeller (FZELL) 101 1.11 (0.00)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 29000 36.98 (-0.42)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          One to One: John & Yoko (OTOJY) 150000 1.15 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 2000 20.00 (0.00)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 1 13.32 (+0.43)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 150000 0.62 (-0.38)          Enemies (ENMES) 149999 20.00 (0.00)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 376 377.10 (+4.54)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 11000 36.98 (-0.42)          Bruce Lee (BRLEE) 11000 16.96 (0.00)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 3250 153.12 (+0.88)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 42 36.98 (-0.42)          Black Phone 2 (BPHO2) 60 57.31 (+0.14)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Ethan Hawke (EHAWK) 1 30.21 (0.00)          The Surfer (SURFR) 150000 8.13 (-0.07)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 81 1.22 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (CCBB) 5000 33.37 (0.00)          Juliet and Romeo aka Verona's Ro (VERAJ) 150000 9.11 (-0.06)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 100 1.22 (0.00)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Drop (DROP) 64696 20.51 (-0.42)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 150000 5.97 (-0.08)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 5000 13.32 (+0.43)          Franz Rogowski (FROGO) 119 1.22 (0.00)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          The New Boy (TNEWB) 150000 0.67 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Friendship (FNSHP) 150000 9.03 (-0.10)          Richard Gere (RGERE) 200 1.22 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 161.03 (+2.73)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          Odessa Young (OYOUN) 310 1.17 (0.00)          Thunderbolts* (TBOLT) 108558 218.48 (+1.11)          Sinners (SINER) 150000 108.76 (+1.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 1000 36.98 (-0.42)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 13.32 (+0.43)          Odessa Young (OYOUN) 310 1.17 (0.00)          The Fantastic Four: First Steps (FANF2) 150000 218.69 (-2.35)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 150000 13.32 (+0.43)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 554 36.98 (-0.42)          Tron: Ares (TRON3) 150000 129.60 (-0.66)          Don’t Let’s Go to the Dogs T (DLGDT) 20000 1.32 (+0.01)          Florian Zeller (FZELL) 99 1.11 (0.00)          Disney's Snow White (SNWHT) 100000 85.75 (-0.91)          Disney's Snow White (SNWHT) 35 85.75 (-0.91)          Florian Zeller (FZELL) 101 1.11 (0.00)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 29000 36.98 (-0.42)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)          One to One: John & Yoko (OTOJY) 150000 1.15 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 2000 20.00 (0.00)          Day Drinker (DRNKR) 1 13.32 (+0.43)          The Ballad of a Small Player (TBOSP) 150000 0.62 (-0.38)          Enemies (ENMES) 149999 20.00 (0.00)          A Minecraft Movie (MINEC) 376 377.10 (+4.54)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 11000 36.98 (-0.42)          Bruce Lee (BRLEE) 11000 16.96 (0.00)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 3250 153.12 (+0.88)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 20.00 (0.00)