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The potential damage from a long-term boycott backlash by legitimate moviegoers would far exceed skulking downloaders.

Posted by: KalElFan (a.k.a del_TOM_KalElFan) on Dec 18, 08:37 in response to fricnfractal's post It should be released straight to internet anytime now by...

If you do a Google news search this morning the backlash against the caving is already widespread and there's certainly the potential there for a boycott.  It doesn't even have to be organized.

Interview Blame Game (Exhibitors or Sony?), possible boycott backlash, and could it now be released early next year? KalElFan Dec 18, 07:49

Link or is this more speculation? If the take insurance payout, it will no longer be theirs to decide. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 08:00

+1 screw the hacker nitwits {nm} Dorfman Dec 18, 08:14

It should be released straight to internet anytime now by those same North Korean hackers. Who screws who? {nm} fricnfractal Dec 18, 08:15

The potential damage from a long-term boycott backlash by legitimate moviegoers would far exceed skulking downloaders. KalElFan Dec 18, 08:37

North Korea is not going away in a month. {nm} Antibody Dec 18, 08:43

Overall box office damage from people staying home out of fear would be much worse. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 08:48

That's the calculation right now, yes, give in to the hacker nitwits. Those who disadain that can also boycott though. {nm} KalElFan Dec 18, 09:00

Not enough boycotters to matter {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 09:06

Maybe not, but it's way too early to make that call. Caving to nitwit hackers / terrorists is unpopular {nm} KalElFan Dec 18, 09:15

No it's not. This is not a matter of National pride. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 09:21

A Google search thoroughly refutes you on it being popular, and it's principle not pride. {nm} KalElFan Dec 18, 09:27

Only people i see visibly upset are actors who are screaming about their pocketbooks under the guise of patriotism. tradermark Dec 18, 09:49

No - a boycott would require sustained protest. Trending stuff is a flash in the pan. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 10:19

uhhh No but way to get the stock moving. How can the reward outweigh just one event? tradermark Dec 18, 08:32

Motive agreed. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 08:38

HSX had already retained the Interview w/o a release date and the stock was already sharply up before I posted. So inherently HSX raised... KalElFan Dec 18, 08:44

Did you read the lasted tagged article? Sony is not releasing the movie in any form. {nm} Antibody Dec 18, 08:46

+1 {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 08:47

The V article said "Sony has no plans..." and 24 hours prior they were going ahead. Things change and you lose the argument when you... KalElFan Dec 18, 08:56

Why would I halt and delist NTRVW? Has it been released in theaters, VOD or DVD, or been 3 years without any release? Antibody Dec 18, 09:00

You just suggested Sony was not releasing the movie in any form, which is irrelevant to my posts unless you mean EVER releasing it KalElFan Dec 18, 09:10

Yes, EVER. You're just not paying attention. Sony going the insurance route, for that to happen, they can't make a penny. {nm} Antibody Dec 18, 09:17

You're not paying attention to your own V article, the months if not years for an insurance claim, and you've kept the stock active... KalElFan Dec 18, 09:22

Again "Why would I halt and delist NTRVW? Has it been released in theaters, VOD or DVD, or been 3 years without any release?" {nm} Antibody Dec 18, 09:28

Because the context of your argument is and was that Sony has made a decision to never release it. If it's not, then you're just KalElFan Dec 18, 09:33

I've answered your question twice now. You're just not paying attention. {nm} Antibody Dec 18, 09:46

The movie is wrapped. It could always be released in the future by another (crazy) distributor or go straight to dvd at which time fricnfractal Dec 18, 10:02

Beyond that if your object wasn't to move the stock why include a 50 million opening figure in your original post? {nm} tradermark Dec 18, 09:52

Coupled with weaksauce arguments, his motive is now quite clear. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 10:29

Retained per the rules. See the FAQ. Anti already said the 3 circumstances that would merit delist Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 18, 12:22

I think the danger here is the precedent it sets. Now any nut job organization or protest group religious or otherwise knows what to do Dorfman Dec 18, 10:32

I like this quote from EW...basically, we held an Olympics after 9/11 but we can't show a movie after a hacker attack? tealfan Dec 18, 09:02

+1 True. DHS said no credible threat {nm} Dorfman Dec 18, 09:10

And the DHS , just like the poster here, isn't going to be paying the lawsuit off if the worse happened. {nm} tradermark Dec 18, 09:13

apparently, Sony is more afraid of lawsuits than the IOC {nm} tealfan Dec 18, 10:16

So everytime someone threatens something we should just shut it down or pull it from being shown? Thats Bulls**t {nm} Dorfman Dec 18, 10:25





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Fence (TFENC) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 1200 37.08 (+0.49)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 5000 37.08 (+0.49)          Warfare (WARFR) 49999 27.69 (-0.87)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 4000 36.33 (+0.50)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 4 17.86 (+0.08)          Weapons (WEPNS) 8000 38.85 (+0.30)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 1 1.90 (-0.10)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 75000 45.84 (-3.49)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 25000 17.86 (+0.08)          Highest 2 Lowest (HILOW) 2000 22.01 (+0.20)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 581 150.00 (0.00)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Send Help (SENDH) 400 34.70 (+0.37)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Avengers: Secret Wars (AVNG6) 1000 456.29 (-5.63)          Sniff (SNIFF) 601 0.07 (-0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 150000 152.56 (+1.25)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Morgan Freeman (MFREE) 24996 20.89 (0.00)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 20000 45.84 (-3.49)          Remain aka Untitled Shyamalan Sp (REMAN) 10000 44.99 (-0.11)          Madden (MADEN) 150000 23.71 (-0.06)          The Accountant 2 (ACTN2) 20000 69.06 (+0.21)          The Actor (TACTR) 6000 0.09 (+0.01)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Wild Four O’Clocks (W4OCL) 798 0.07 (0.00)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 1600 284.50 (+0.87)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 5 22.20 (+0.03)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2600 284.50 (+0.87)          Wonka 2 (WONK2) 1000 112.25 (-0.82)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Warfare (WARFR) 100000 27.69 (-0.87)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2000 284.50 (+0.87)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 1200 37.08 (+0.49)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 5000 37.08 (+0.49)          Warfare (WARFR) 49999 27.69 (-0.87)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 4000 36.33 (+0.50)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 4 17.86 (+0.08)          Weapons (WEPNS) 8000 38.85 (+0.30)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 1 1.90 (-0.10)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 75000 45.84 (-3.49)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 25000 17.86 (+0.08)          Highest 2 Lowest (HILOW) 2000 22.01 (+0.20)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 581 150.00 (0.00)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Send Help (SENDH) 400 34.70 (+0.37)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Avengers: Secret Wars (AVNG6) 1000 456.29 (-5.63)          Sniff (SNIFF) 601 0.07 (-0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 150000 152.56 (+1.25)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Morgan Freeman (MFREE) 24996 20.89 (0.00)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 20000 45.84 (-3.49)          Remain aka Untitled Shyamalan Sp (REMAN) 10000 44.99 (-0.11)          Madden (MADEN) 150000 23.71 (-0.06)          The Accountant 2 (ACTN2) 20000 69.06 (+0.21)          The Actor (TACTR) 6000 0.09 (+0.01)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Wild Four O’Clocks (W4OCL) 798 0.07 (0.00)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 1600 284.50 (+0.87)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 5 22.20 (+0.03)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2600 284.50 (+0.87)          Wonka 2 (WONK2) 1000 112.25 (-0.82)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Warfare (WARFR) 100000 27.69 (-0.87)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2000 284.50 (+0.87)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 1200 37.08 (+0.49)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 5000 37.08 (+0.49)          Warfare (WARFR) 49999 27.69 (-0.87)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 4000 36.33 (+0.50)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 4 17.86 (+0.08)          Weapons (WEPNS) 8000 38.85 (+0.30)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 1 1.90 (-0.10)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 75000 45.84 (-3.49)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 25000 17.86 (+0.08)          Highest 2 Lowest (HILOW) 2000 22.01 (+0.20)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 581 150.00 (0.00)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Send Help (SENDH) 400 34.70 (+0.37)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Avengers: Secret Wars (AVNG6) 1000 456.29 (-5.63)          Sniff (SNIFF) 601 0.07 (-0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 150000 152.56 (+1.25)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Morgan Freeman (MFREE) 24996 20.89 (0.00)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 20000 45.84 (-3.49)          Remain aka Untitled Shyamalan Sp (REMAN) 10000 44.99 (-0.11)          Madden (MADEN) 150000 23.71 (-0.06)          The Accountant 2 (ACTN2) 20000 69.06 (+0.21)          The Actor (TACTR) 6000 0.09 (+0.01)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Wild Four O’Clocks (W4OCL) 798 0.07 (0.00)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 1600 284.50 (+0.87)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 5 22.20 (+0.03)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2600 284.50 (+0.87)          Wonka 2 (WONK2) 1000 112.25 (-0.82)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Warfare (WARFR) 100000 27.69 (-0.87)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2000 284.50 (+0.87)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 1200 37.08 (+0.49)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 5000 37.08 (+0.49)          Warfare (WARFR) 49999 27.69 (-0.87)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 4000 36.33 (+0.50)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 4 17.86 (+0.08)          Weapons (WEPNS) 8000 38.85 (+0.30)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 1 1.90 (-0.10)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 75000 45.84 (-3.49)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 25000 17.86 (+0.08)          Highest 2 Lowest (HILOW) 2000 22.01 (+0.20)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 581 150.00 (0.00)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Send Help (SENDH) 400 34.70 (+0.37)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Avengers: Secret Wars (AVNG6) 1000 456.29 (-5.63)          Sniff (SNIFF) 601 0.07 (-0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 150000 152.56 (+1.25)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Warfare (WARFR) 25000 27.69 (-0.87)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Magazine Dreams (MAGZN) 10000 1.19 (-0.01)          Morgan Freeman (MFREE) 24996 20.89 (0.00)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 20000 45.84 (-3.49)          Remain aka Untitled Shyamalan Sp (REMAN) 10000 44.99 (-0.11)          Madden (MADEN) 150000 23.71 (-0.06)          The Accountant 2 (ACTN2) 20000 69.06 (+0.21)          The Actor (TACTR) 6000 0.09 (+0.01)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Wild Four O’Clocks (W4OCL) 798 0.07 (0.00)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 1600 284.50 (+0.87)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 5 22.20 (+0.03)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2600 284.50 (+0.87)          Wonka 2 (WONK2) 1000 112.25 (-0.82)          Last Train to New York (LTTNY) 20000 3.87 (0.00)          Warfare (WARFR) 100000 27.69 (-0.87)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 2000 284.50 (+0.87)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 1200 37.08 (+0.49)          The Lost Boys (LOSTB) 20000 1.97 (0.00)          The Fence (TFENC) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          Margie Claus (MARGC) 5000 37.08 (+0.49)          Warfare (WARFR) 49999 27.69 (-0.87)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 4000 36.33 (+0.50)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 906 0.07 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 150000 45.84 (-3.49)          Weapons (WEPNS) 1200 38.85 (+0.30)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 4 17.86 (+0.08)          Weapons (WEPNS) 8000 38.85 (+0.30)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Everest aka Mallory aka The Summ (SUMIT) 9993 0.07 (0.00)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 1 1.90 (-0.10)          The King of Kings (KOKNG) 75000 45.84 (-3.49)          Gabrielle Union (GUNIO) 25000 17.86 (+0.08)          Highest 2 Lowest (HILOW) 2000 22.01 (+0.20)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 581 150.00 (0.00)          The Legend of Ochi (LOCHI) 150000 16.34 (+0.51)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Send Help (SENDH) 400 34.70 (+0.37)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Avengers: Secret Wars (AVNG6) 1000 456.29 (-5.63)          Sniff (SNIFF) 601 0.07 (-0.02)          The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt (LOTR5) 150000 152.56 (+1.25)