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Yeah, you'd need to offer some proof for that kind of statement.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell (a.k.a MarkN) on Feb 02, 13:24 in response to Antibody's post EBANK isn't a bankable name. The movie will do just as...

I'm not saying EBANK is a franchise, but she's more bankable than LLIU or OMUNN.  Heck just use their respective TAGs, it's at least a consistent measurement:

EBANK - $102.5M

LLIU - $36.3M

OMUNN - $32.3M

I'm not defending the choice of EBANK, I just don't think it's necessarily racism at the root of the decision.  With EBANK you get someone in more high profile films recently than the two you mention.  It's not fair or sensitive to the challenges of minority actors, and it has the side effect of further marginalizing them. With that I agree.

THR: Elizabeth Banks to play villain in Power Rangers [MMPR] RazorHawk Feb 02, 09:07

I like Banks and looks like a role she can have a lot of fun with. {nm} ~JPV~ Feb 02, 09:14

Whitewashing. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 09:41

severely...Lucy Liu in O-Ren mode would've been perfect. {nm} MrZero Feb 02, 09:44

It's not really racism as much as it is bottom-lineism. Which leads to disenfranchisement. Chest Rockwell Feb 02, 10:32

EBANK isn't a bankable name. The movie will do just as well with Liu or how about Olivia Munn. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 11:17

Yeah, you'd need to offer some proof for that kind of statement. Chest Rockwell Feb 02, 13:24

WOSHM $39,751 You can't count Hunger Games, she was just "tagging" along. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 13:45

ok, then you cant count kung fu panda for liu. She was just voicing a small part. {nm} adrenalin112 Feb 02, 13:52

Agreed. EBANK isn't any more bankable than an Asian actress in the part. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 14:02

WOSHM actually did $59M lifetime. $39M was OW. But I think you underestimate her draw from HG and PP. Chest Rockwell Feb 02, 13:56

Where are you getting Millions? $39,751 $59,209 Antibody Feb 02, 14:02

Force of habit with BO numbers. {nm} Chest Rockwell Feb 02, 20:10

yep, her along with many others in supporting roles helped make HGAME what it was. adrenalin112 Feb 02, 15:00

The system you're describing isn't racist in the sense of someone like The Man from Undercover Brother trying to keep minorities down. RogerMore Feb 02, 14:21

Stop putting racism into everything. U will always say that when any white actor does good now. tteddy286 Feb 02, 09:46

It is racism. If minority actors can't even get minority roles, what chance do they have to compete for non-race specific roles. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 09:47

If they'd have cast a black actor to play a villain you'd have been shouting about 'stereotyping'. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Feb 02, 09:51

I dunno - neither JFOXX being in SPID2 or IELBA in TREK3 have generated much comment. (Certainly nowhere near as much as BCUMB in TREK2) {nm} RogerMore Feb 02, 10:10

It's only racism to u. She got the part based on her job and skills of being an actor. YOU are making something tteddy286 Feb 02, 09:54

its racist to think this character can be played by a white person. Moviesnob Feb 02, 09:55

That character was based on Witch Bandora - a Japanese Actress. You could say they 'blacked her up' for the US version. hyperzeitgeist Feb 02, 10:05

She has also been played by Julia Cortez in the first movie and Carla Perez on the TV series. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:08

In theory, they can explain the change in ethnicity with one line of dialogue but it still sucks {nm} Moviesnob Feb 02, 10:18

All the actors in power rangers were asian.... you know before they brought the show to the USA.... MarkDinse Feb 02, 10:54

that type of villian seems kind of over the top stereotype racist to me. Making them so squinty & dark, as if villains are dark skinned. adrenalin112 Feb 02, 12:06

FYI, N.W.A are all African-Americans. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 09:55

No duh sherlock. There's the racism. Even roles made for white in the future have been cast and fulfilled tteddy286 Feb 02, 09:58

Besides, the movie itself sucked. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 09:58

You obviously don't understand the concept racism. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 09:59

You are exhibiting it a lot since the academy awards. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:00

What about changing the always white Human Torch into a black character? That changed the history of the character since his biological fourstars Feb 02, 09:59

That's progress, because minorities were traditionally underrepresented in Superhero Comics. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:00

Well Based On Ur STATEMENT Then BLACK Panther SHOULD Be white {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:01

No, based on my statement, that's the opposite of progress. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:04

It's not progress if you force people to cast minorities even though there is a better actor. tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:06

Your use of the term "A Black" here: "are saying only put a black in there" is the most racist thing I've seen today. {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:07

And that was used based off what antibody is preaching. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:09

I think he's saying that a lot of these comics were made in the early to mid 1900's, when racism.. pygmydev Feb 02, 10:12

And I understand that. But when one says more minorities need to get roles then the whole fairness of tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:15

I'd be interested to see if they auditioned anyone for the role, or if they just offered it to her. To me, minorities should get an audition {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:19

And if they did that then I would be upset as well. They should not just offer it to one person but gi e an opportunity to all. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:21

Not only minorities but all should get a fair shot {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:22

Hollywood history shows that the best person for the part is usually white. That's definition of racism. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:09

Only to u. There are a lot more whites currently then blacks so it only makes sense more whites would get more roles then blacks. tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:13

History is all in the past. The future is changing but when all u do is scream and whine about racism you stop progress {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:20

The future is changing because minorities scream and whine for progress. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:23

No, the future is changing because people in general see there needs to be a change. What you and they are screaming for is not tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:25

Wrong. Civil Rights, Gay Marriage...etc happen because the minority population rose up. Majority would be happy with status quo. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:29

But these are totally different subject matters then civil rights. This is about saying you should give a minority a job because we say so tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:31

They stood up for a ligitimate claim back in those times. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:32

But I'm done discussing with you. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:34

No. That is not progress. That is an affirmative action hire. The Human Torch was created as a white character. The origin of the story fourstars Feb 02, 11:27

And I think Jordan did a great job. But the story itself ruined that movie {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:01

Is the villain part in MMPR à minority role ??? And does that concept even exist ??? Puzzled {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 09:56

New Oscar categories: best actor, actress, supp actor, actress in a minority role {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 10:03

Best song composed by a minority composer, best adapted script adaptation by a minority writer {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 10:05

Is it whitewashing too when a white person gets a job as a gaffer ? Puzzled by this Elisabeth Banks thread {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 10:09

How come no one comments on ur stuff lol {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:10

I dont mind... As long as i can vent my puzzlement :-) and concerning your discussion with antibody: i think you are right {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 10:30

:) {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:35

Looking at the casting, 4 out of the 5 Rangers are minority. ~JPV~ Feb 02, 09:56

Good, and I look forward to seeing how they portray each role with an open mind. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 09:59

Yes, as was the TV series. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 09:59

+1 better off not reading this ****ty board {nm} hawkfanatic2 Feb 02, 10:24

I thought this Forum was for movie information. Can a new forum be started for racism accusations, political views, etc. It's getting PhoneHome Feb 02, 10:13

I agree with u. This should all be off this board. I come here to play a game and read about upcoming movies tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:18

It definitely seems to be a 'dog-whistle' issue at the moment. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Feb 02, 10:20

"Welcome to the Movies Board. Please refrain from making post about movie news that upset institutionalized forms of discrimination" {nm} Moviesnob Feb 02, 10:30

It's interesting that the game-master turns out to be the whistler {nm} jmt-nl Feb 02, 10:34

somebody should be. he's not the only one who wants more representation of diversity in movies though {nm} Moviesnob Feb 02, 10:37

Well explain how the Wiz is a representation of diversity then when the casting call only calls for blacks {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:39

Again, your siting examples of things created BECAUSE there was a lack of inclusion in things like Wizard of Oz. {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:44

AGAIN, wizard of Oz was created in the past when things were that way. This is the future. The Wiz has created tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:46

So, knowing there is a lack of inclusion for minorities...minorities should give what few roles they have to whites to include them? {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:47

Now that sure does sound like rasicm thinking. You are stating "I have something and you should not because you tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:49

You are completely missing the purpose of progress and change for the better and regressing into bitterness saying tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:50

You'll never understand this concept, because you've obviously never been on the receiving end of oppression. {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:56

Haha cop-out. U haven't either. {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:57

I have indeed. Ignorance must be blissful for you. Good luck to yourself and Trump in 2016. {nm} pygmydev Feb 02, 10:58

See, you again exhibit racism by assuming I'm white because I don't drink your coolaid tteddy286 Feb 02, 11:00

Plus I wouldn't vote for Hillary even if he'll was freezing over. That old bag of bones will ruin America with her lies {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 11:01

Casting a movie role is movie news. Discussing the motivation for the choice is not. {nm} PhoneHome Feb 02, 10:39

+1 {nm} tteddy286 Feb 02, 10:40

I disagree that the motivation for casting is not movie news. it certainly is. More knowledge is great for everyone {nm} Moviesnob Feb 02, 10:43

The other thing I'd add is that if the target audience feels left out by the casting choices, they're less likely to buy tickets. {nm} RogerMore Feb 02, 10:48

Like Pan. {nm} Antibody Feb 02, 10:52

If those casting the film or others with inside info stated the motivation, then news/knowledge. Joe Public's "whitewashing" accusation, not PhoneHome Feb 02, 11:24

How many moral points are you up with all these social justice posts? {nm} masonacj Feb 02, 11:42

Good lord the racism comments got out of hand way too fast. She clearly was the best big-name actress for the job. chosenone2oo5 Feb 02, 11:15





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