HSX Forum

Movies

No brainer, even? It's already priced at the top end of all predictions so far. I'd be curious to know what you're basing this on? TIA :-) {nm}

Posted by: Facto on Mar 26, 00:18 in response to JMT's post same no-brainer here

Gut Checks Time? Short Hot Tub Time Machine and Long How To Train Your Dragon {nm} Mattrek Mar 26, 00:02

same no-brainer here {nm} JMT Mar 26, 00:04

No brainer, even? It's already priced at the top end of all predictions so far. I'd be curious to know what you're basing this on? TIA :-) Facto Mar 26, 00:18

betting against the 3D thing, huh ? Good luck there ;-) {nm} JMT Mar 26, 00:22

I'm not sure I'll bet on it at all - it's semi-pricey and seems to be priced about right. You didn't really answer my question.. ? :-) {nm} Facto Mar 26, 00:27

welll... ( just back from work ) I shorted the last two 3D films and lost a lot of money there. That and... JMT Mar 26, 08:43

Alright, fair arguments, but we are after all in the month of March... And it faces competition from both Wimpy and Alice. Facto Mar 26, 08:48

I am with you facto. It is priced way to high right now to be a long. {nm} the_noble Mar 26, 00:25

It needs to make 47.6m to break even, how is that even remotely over-priced? MVA did 59.6m last year with 800 less theaters. {nm} Mattrek Mar 26, 00:32

59.3m* {nm} Mattrek Mar 26, 00:33

It's priced at the top end of all tracking we've seen so far, and beyond the L.A. Times' prediction range. I'm not saying that's wrong. How Facto Mar 26, 00:35

When it opens over 55m (actually I'm expecting over 60m) and makes the long-holders 1m we will see about your argument :P {nm} Mattrek Mar 26, 00:37

55-60M being purely gut feeling numbers, then? Anyhow, 1M is nothing for me to get excited about. Especially when I'm not quite feeling it Facto Mar 26, 00:48

Well, 60 mill only needs a 15k PTA to break even AB_Excello Mar 26, 01:06

Got that part right - it certainly isn't Alice. If it can actually muster half of Alice's PTA, I would say that's not too shabby. {nm} Facto Mar 26, 01:08

Well here's my argument: Mattrek Mar 26, 11:37

Very interesting post, thanks {nm} Facto Mar 26, 12:21

right now have HOTUB short and HTRYD long...but I'm thinking about taking my money now on HTRYD {nm} ftwangel Mar 26, 07:44

Definitely short on HOTUB. I might pass on HTRYD, or at least wait 'till it's closer to halt. I don't see much play in it. Also, when people Facto Mar 26, 00:32

We are talking about the same film that last weekend against Diary of a Wimpy Kid fell 45% right? Mattrek Mar 26, 00:36

what are whisper numbers based on? they are horrible, someone should be fired if they are predictions. {nm} Bk_Tan Mar 26, 00:52

Short HOTUB & Long HTRYD here. {nm} joeoftexas Mar 26, 03:15

Definite long for Dragons.. no more under-estimation for kids movies.. short the Tub ;-) {nm} karspov Mar 26, 03:29

Short them both... reviews aren't going to have THAT much of an effect on HTRYD with so little interest compared to prev. DWA movies secretstalker Mar 26, 03:54

I'm skittish about shorting it also. There's something to be said about the children's flick segment. Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeaquel Facto Mar 26, 04:52

I didn't say anything about being skittish. I'm shorting it. {nm} secretstalker Mar 26, 05:10

Oh, yeah - I know :-) I was referring to my numerous posts above, where I question the statements of those who claim longing it is a no-brai Facto Mar 26, 05:19

Short on both. {nm} second gary Mar 26, 05:34

Short HOTUB. I have HTRYD long, but I'll have to think on it a little more. CAINE doesn't get to play this week {nm} RogerMore Mar 26, 06:42

[KIDS]! Long! [HTRYD]! {nm} KidsFund Mar 26, 07:08

Going way long on Dragon, hoping for a long on HOTUB, if its not long i'll travel back in time and short it {nm} bennyboy10 Mar 26, 08:18

now i remember, i initially got it because i think it will have legs...so i dont care if its long or not lol {nm} bennyboy10 Mar 26, 08:21

Long on HOTUB (I've got a feeling), Long HTYRD (seems easy long), finally seeing ALICE {nm} SEETVFund Mar 26, 09:26

I posted this to support, but... tristandrm Mar 26, 10:00





Post a Reply

To post to the forums you must first login!


Kraven the Hunter (KRAVN) 43925 78.99 (-0.02)          The Chronicles of Narnia (NARN4) 150000 3.53 (-0.62)          Moana 2 (MOAN2) 50 278.38 (-0.02)          The Chronicles of Narnia (NARN4) 50000 3.53 (-0.62)          They Found Us (THFUS) 48000 15.44 (-0.43)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 150000 146.41 (-0.77)          Gladiator II (GLAD2) 10000 176.35 (-0.20)          Paper Tiger (PTIGR) 100000 18.51 (-0.89)          The Chronicles of Narnia (NARN4) 150000 3.53 (-0.62)          Flight Risk (FLTRS) 9899 30.21 (+1.06)          Famous (FAMOS) 100000 20.93 (-1.00)          Reminders of Him (RMNDH) 49000 19.84 (+0.13)          Kelvin Harrison Jr. (KHARR) 1198 52.87 (0.00)          Gladiator II H$70 Call (GLAD2.CA) 25000 2.20 (-0.02)          The Hand That Rocks the Cradle (HTRTC) 28000 24.75 (+0.63)          The Hand That Rocks the Cradle (HTRTC) 55000 24.75 (+0.63)          The Horror Fund 9 (SPOOK) 20000 19.98 (-0.01)          Sneaks (SNEKS) 150000 11.10 (-0.90)          Famous (FAMOS) 150000 20.93 (-1.00)          Famous (FAMOS) 150000 20.93 (-1.00)          Switzerland (SWITZ) 150000 2.56 (+0.03)          Michelle Dockery (MDOCK) 25000 34.80 (+0.12)          The Horror Fund 9 (SPOOK) 20000 19.98 (-0.01)          A Real Pain (ARLPN) 1219 7.82 (-0.03)          Shrek 5 (SHRK5) 150000 146.41 (-0.77)          The Horror Fund 9 (SPOOK) 20000 19.98 (-0.01)          Moana (MOAN1) 10000 170.46 (+0.35)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 29229 253.79 (+1.17)          Frozen III (FROZ3) 29229 253.79 (+1.17)          Dear Santa (DSATA) 150000 1.29 (+0.02)          Heretic (HERTC) 1 27.17 (-0.06)          Bring Them Down (BRTDW) 149999 1.74 (-0.19)          Bring Them Down (BRTDW) 149999 1.74 (-0.19)          Bring Them Down (BRTDW) 150000 1.74 (-0.19)          Lily Collins (LICOL) 20000 10.51 (-0.08)          Hoppers (HOPPR) 12500 107.65 (+0.03)          FOX: Murder in a Small Town (MDIAST) 12500 8.44 (-0.01)          Milla Jovovich (MJOVO) 25000 15.16 (-0.20)          Paul Anderson (PANDE) 25000 18.15 (+0.10)          In The Lost Lands (INTLL) 150000 8.54 (-0.03)          In The Lost Lands (INTLL) 150000 8.54 (-0.03)          Marion Cotillard (MCOTI) 20000 16.01 (-0.08)          Ernest Cole: Lost and Found (ECLAF) 893 0.53 (-0.01)          Sylvia Hoeks (SHOEK) 20000 29.78 (-0.10)          Wicked H$100 Put (WICKD.PU) 25000 1.24 (-0.04)          Wicked H$100 Call (WICKD.CA) 25000 8.01 (+0.19)          Gladiator II H$70 Put (GLAD2.PU) 25000 4.21 (+0.04)          Wicked Part 2 (WCKD2) 3764 197.30 (+0.50)          Wicked Part 2 (WCKD2) 3286 197.30 (+0.50)          The Horror Fund 9 (SPOOK) 20000 19.98 (-0.01)