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I think you have a point. Maybe even two. My European look on that...;

Posted by: JMT (a.k.a JMT-NL) on May 02, 12:54 in response to Facto's post Indeed. I know that in Europe, such films are regarded by...

The parental/kids thing is a spot-on observation in my opinion. In Europe the friday and saturday night thing for 16, 17 18 year olds is more towards clubs and 'cafe/bars'.

Dvds is big , and downloading Glee and Vampire Diaries is even bigger.

Offcourse there's also a sizeable blockbusterfilm crowd, but like you said, it's not as big as in the US, where they sell out the big blockbusters weeks ahead. ( Europe sometimes has that as well, off course... The Twilight and Potter films for example )

One other thing; I love the big US-films. Die Hard etc... I'm a fan ! Batman. Iron Man, all those men ! ( Lara Croft, Wanted, all those Angelinas ) My guestimation that Iron Man 2 will do 'slightly less good' than then part 1 is my guess towards the US market. Based on the way I saw the Us-moviegoers perform the last 20 years. ( and based on me having seen both films )

But my track record is very shaky. I can be very off sometimes, as with this weeks NELMS f.i. ;-)

 

LATIMES/BENFRITZ: IRON MAN 2 made 26% more overseas in local currency OW than the first IRON MAN this weekend. notfabio May 02, 10:50

Here in Guatemala it was at least 40% higher, sold out for the rest of the week in some sites {nm} gogreen May 02, 10:54

I saw it today. It was 70 % of the part 1 -fun and surprise. A short for me JMT May 02, 11:02

I disagree. But then again, I saw Iron Man for the first time about 2 weeks ago, and the sequel on Wednesday. Easy to compare, then. Facto May 02, 11:15

It'll probably do better against the first one, percentage-wise, domestically. Europeans etc. tend to regard films as Iron Man as standard Facto May 02, 11:13

Of course, because all Europeans have the same taste in movies and only watch artsy movies from France or China... Iron m {nm} Buesi May 02, 11:35

Iron Man is pretty big in Europe, too. {nm} Buesi May 02, 11:36

Did I say it wasn't? Read my posts again, or alternatively, learn to read. Or did you forget to open the message and read the IM? {nm} Facto May 02, 11:47

I did read it. I just don't really see a "resistance towards Hollywood blockbusters" in Europeans the way you do. {nm} Buesi May 02, 12:00

what is Facto talking about? RazorHawk May 02, 12:07

Within arthouse crowds. I.e. very little resistance. Facto May 02, 12:14

Ok. Europe is not homogenous, and there may be differences between generations also. Facto May 02, 12:10

Learn to read. {nm} Facto May 02, 11:42

cinema about 70% full on the first friday night in the uk spinks May 02, 13:46

This was probably the case in much of western Europe. (Both the 70% attendance, roughly, and the A Team-trailer.) {nm} Facto May 02, 16:58

Btw, was the Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time-trailer also included with your UK prints... ? {nm} Facto May 02, 17:00

The first IRON MAN did do better domestically than internationally so that percentage uptick should be higher in the US {nm} notfabio May 02, 11:46

Indeed. I know that in Europe, such films are regarded by many to be too American, too Hollywood. Facto May 02, 11:57

I think you have a point. Maybe even two. My European look on that...; JMT May 02, 12:54

Indeed. I forgot about the illegal downloads thing.. There's no real risk in Europe in doing such things - unlike in the US. {nm} Facto May 02, 13:15

Why should the % increase be larger in the US because the original was nominally higher? Isn't that the point of using a proportion? lukesed May 02, 11:57

More people saw Iron Man in North America, than in for instance Europe, per capita, and there's higher expectation levels for the sequel. Facto May 02, 12:18

Of course more people saw Iron Man in the US than in Europe (per capita) - the character isn't very well known outside of the US Buesi May 02, 12:38

"Europeans have a different take on movies and summer." This is true. As well as the rest of your paragraph. And I'm not sure that many Facto May 02, 13:05

My thoughts: the US market has more focus on seeing titles opening weekend. Elsewhere films have longer runs... CityHall May 03, 00:08





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Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 47217 23.31 (-0.25)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 1000 5.57 (-0.43)          The African-American Fund (AFRAM) 1500 36.40 (-0.32)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 150000 5.57 (-0.43)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 25000 36.41 (-1.60)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 75000 5.04 (-0.92)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 24000 5.04 (-0.92)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 150000 5.04 (-0.92)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Watch Dogs (WTDOG) 1 16.92 (-0.01)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 15001 150.00 (0.00)          The Alto Knights (WISEG) 1 6.19 (-0.01)          Tangled (TANGL) 1 68.26 (-0.21)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 21254 5.04 (-0.92)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 21539 150.00 (0.00)          Gremlins 3 (GREM3) 150000 14.93 (+0.16)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 1000 4.82 (-0.58)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 5000 6.80 (+2.42)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 9 150.00 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Gundam (GUNDM) 5000 24.92 (+0.10)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 91404 150.00 (0.00)          The Ballad of Wallis Island (TBOWI) 150000 3.33 (-0.08)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 5000 1.83 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Sinners (SINER) 90188 105.68 (+0.52)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 1000 8.48 (+0.75)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 150000 6.80 (+2.42)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 10000 1.70 (-0.02)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 147478 23.31 (-0.25)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 47217 23.31 (-0.25)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 1000 5.57 (-0.43)          The African-American Fund (AFRAM) 1500 36.40 (-0.32)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 150000 5.57 (-0.43)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 25000 36.41 (-1.60)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 75000 5.04 (-0.92)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 24000 5.04 (-0.92)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 150000 5.04 (-0.92)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Watch Dogs (WTDOG) 1 16.92 (-0.01)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 15001 150.00 (0.00)          The Alto Knights (WISEG) 1 6.19 (-0.01)          Tangled (TANGL) 1 68.26 (-0.21)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 21254 5.04 (-0.92)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 21539 150.00 (0.00)          Gremlins 3 (GREM3) 150000 14.93 (+0.16)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 1000 4.82 (-0.58)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 5000 6.80 (+2.42)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 9 150.00 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Gundam (GUNDM) 5000 24.92 (+0.10)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 91404 150.00 (0.00)          The Ballad of Wallis Island (TBOWI) 150000 3.33 (-0.08)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 5000 1.83 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Sinners (SINER) 90188 105.68 (+0.52)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 1000 8.48 (+0.75)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 150000 6.80 (+2.42)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 10000 1.70 (-0.02)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 147478 23.31 (-0.25)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 47217 23.31 (-0.25)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 1000 5.57 (-0.43)          The African-American Fund (AFRAM) 1500 36.40 (-0.32)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 150000 5.57 (-0.43)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 25000 36.41 (-1.60)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 75000 5.04 (-0.92)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 24000 5.04 (-0.92)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 150000 5.04 (-0.92)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Watch Dogs (WTDOG) 1 16.92 (-0.01)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 15001 150.00 (0.00)          The Alto Knights (WISEG) 1 6.19 (-0.01)          Tangled (TANGL) 1 68.26 (-0.21)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 21254 5.04 (-0.92)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 21539 150.00 (0.00)          Gremlins 3 (GREM3) 150000 14.93 (+0.16)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 1000 4.82 (-0.58)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 5000 6.80 (+2.42)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 9 150.00 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Gundam (GUNDM) 5000 24.92 (+0.10)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 91404 150.00 (0.00)          The Ballad of Wallis Island (TBOWI) 150000 3.33 (-0.08)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 5000 1.83 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Sinners (SINER) 90188 105.68 (+0.52)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 1000 8.48 (+0.75)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 150000 6.80 (+2.42)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 10000 1.70 (-0.02)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 147478 23.31 (-0.25)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 47217 23.31 (-0.25)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 1000 5.57 (-0.43)          The African-American Fund (AFRAM) 1500 36.40 (-0.32)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 150000 5.57 (-0.43)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 25000 36.41 (-1.60)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 75000 5.04 (-0.92)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 24000 5.04 (-0.92)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 150000 5.04 (-0.92)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Watch Dogs (WTDOG) 1 16.92 (-0.01)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 15001 150.00 (0.00)          The Alto Knights (WISEG) 1 6.19 (-0.01)          Tangled (TANGL) 1 68.26 (-0.21)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 21254 5.04 (-0.92)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 21539 150.00 (0.00)          Gremlins 3 (GREM3) 150000 14.93 (+0.16)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 1000 4.82 (-0.58)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 5000 6.80 (+2.42)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 9 150.00 (0.00)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Gundam (GUNDM) 5000 24.92 (+0.10)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 91404 150.00 (0.00)          The Ballad of Wallis Island (TBOWI) 150000 3.33 (-0.08)          The Last Day (TLDAY) 5000 1.83 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Sinners (SINER) 90188 105.68 (+0.52)          Pendulum (PNDLM) 1000 8.48 (+0.75)          The Alchemist (ALCHM) 150000 6.80 (+2.42)          The Cry of the Guards (TCOTG) 10000 1.70 (-0.02)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 147478 23.31 (-0.25)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Kiss of the Spider Woman (KOTSW) 47217 23.31 (-0.25)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 1000 5.57 (-0.43)          The African-American Fund (AFRAM) 1500 36.40 (-0.32)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Last Resort (TLRSR) 150000 5.57 (-0.43)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Wizard of Kremlin (WZKRM) 150000 4.82 (-0.58)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          The Gauntlet (GNTLT) 150000 35.96 (-0.17)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 11.07 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          Boy Band (BOYBN) 150000 22.09 (-0.08)          The Amateur (AMTUR) 25000 36.41 (-1.60)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 75000 5.04 (-0.92)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          100 Nights of Hero (100NH) 150000 16.94 (-0.06)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle (DSIC1) 150000 20.49 (-0.04)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 24000 5.04 (-0.92)          The Map that Leads to You (TMTLY) 150000 13.89 (-0.02)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 150000 5.04 (-0.92)          Blade (BLAD1) 150000 47.58 (-0.15)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 150000 150.00 (0.00)          Watch Dogs (WTDOG) 1 16.92 (-0.01)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 15001 150.00 (0.00)          The Alto Knights (WISEG) 1 6.19 (-0.01)          Tangled (TANGL) 1 68.26 (-0.21)          Tomb Raider (TOMB4) 21254 5.04 (-0.92)          Star Wars directed by Shawn Levy (SWAR4) 21539 150.00 (0.00)