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no way the western will make 28 mill in 5 days ( in 50 maybe ). numbers inside

Posted by: JMT (a.k.a JMT-NL) on Dec 20, 12:11 in response to secretstalker's post MTC: Fockers 63 (5 day), True Grit 28 (5 day), Gulliver's...

reason nr. one; the first TRUE GRIT wasn't that special, except for a great role by an allways great John Wayne. But who in todays audiences cares for John Wayne ?

reason nr. two; the Coen Brothers seem to have lost it ( the public appeal for one ) ... last films were soso

reason nr. three; when was the last time we had a succesfull western opener ?

( if the Coens would have combined the two films, say TRUE COGBURN... it would at least have more story to tell... but then still I would have labelled it a short )

MTC: Fockers 63 (5 day), True Grit 28 (5 day), Gulliver's 12 (2 day) {nm} secretstalker Dec 20, 11:22

That makes a $70m+ 5-day for Fockers likely, and I really hope True Grit opens that well. Westerns always make me a bit apprehensive. {nm} Rolling_Thunder Dec 20, 11:31

I don't see your logic here. Please explain why RS (50) and MTC (60) makes 70+ likely. Thanks. {nm} Port Value League Admin Dec 20, 12:26

Historical probability based on similar films. {nm} Rolling_Thunder Dec 20, 13:26

That's a little vague and does not support your thesis. Is there any fact or information that you can provide that can support your point? {nm} Port Value League Admin Dec 20, 14:57

Yes. {nm} Rolling_Thunder Dec 20, 15:00

:) {nm} Port Value League Admin Dec 20, 15:56

I love westerns but sadly hated True Grit. Looked beautiful, but the acting had zero emotion in the delivery of lines. skamanfu Dec 20, 13:11

Well, John Wayne was hardly the emotional kind either. {nm} HarryWarden Dec 20, 16:14

Look like [MPRN3] will open close to what the previous one did; it will be more frontloaded, but should still cross $200m with ease {nm} xiayun Dec 20, 11:33

Even after NARN3 (both RS/MTC over) and TRON2 (both RS/MTC under), you're sticking by your "system"? secretstalker Dec 20, 11:46

word is that the 3rd is better than the 2nd... plus the jack-nicholson-one was soooo bad , that auds are eager for an oldfashioned DeNiro {nm} JMT Dec 20, 11:51

The "rule" worked on Tron, as MTC was significantly higher than RS; RS and MTC were identical on Narnia 3, so no rule applied there {nm} xiayun Dec 20, 11:56

MTC was 34, RS was 31... neither points to an opening over $40 million. {nm} secretstalker Dec 20, 12:01

RS was at "high-20s" from what you reported on 12th, so MTC was about 20% higher, so adding another 20% to MTC xiayun Dec 20, 12:04

Oh, you're right... TRON2 was 29 from RS... I was looking at YOGIB (which didn't come CLOSE to besting TRON2) {nm} secretstalker Dec 20, 12:07

and the "rule" worked quite well on Yogi Bear; it is really only relevant when the difference between the two trackings are significant xiayun Dec 20, 12:02

We'll see. {nm} secretstalker Dec 20, 12:05

I've been tracking "the rule" for almost a year now and it's picked the direction of the adjust correctly 80 from about 120 wide releases RogerMore Dec 20, 12:09

look at RS / MTC rules these weeks adn21 Dec 20, 12:08

Yeah, and NARN3... when they both give the same number that means they're both wrong? secretstalker Dec 20, 12:11

not looking really good for MPRN3 notagain Dec 23, 16:27

not looking good for [MPRN3] notagain Dec 23, 16:36

no way the western will make 28 mill in 5 days ( in 50 maybe ). numbers inside JMT Dec 20, 12:11

No Country for Old Men made over 70 million, Burn After REading was one of their biggest openings ever. secretstalker Dec 20, 12:12

We'll see :) {nm} JMT Dec 20, 12:16

also, did you see the trailer ? That was boring, dark ( as in ' many darkly lit night scenes' ) and plain awfull. {nm} JMT Dec 20, 12:21

I've seen the movie and I wasn't a fan but clearly, I'm in the minority. {nm} secretstalker Dec 20, 12:23

SS... you're not alone. My thoughts are up above. {nm} skamanfu Dec 20, 13:12

the trailer with the johnny cash song "gods gonna cut you down"? that was one excellent trailer {nm} islander Dec 20, 12:26

you mean the one that's attached to the stockpage ? There's little Cash in that one. That's the one I saw and didn't like {nm} JMT Dec 20, 13:04

I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not sure people will rush out to see it this weekend. {nm} lesana Dec 20, 13:06





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