HSX Forum

Playing & Trading Strategy

Only Actuals are Facts. Projections are OPINIONS at the times, not facts. {nm}

Posted by: Antibody on Dec 27, 11:03 in response to RotoHockeyYTD2014's post At that time Nobody knew what the Actuals would be.

'AVATAR: THE WAY OF THE WATER' (AVAT2) 468.31 Is Headed For A SMACK-DOWN Based On Its Current Pace Relative To (SW16). SMACK-DOWN To 438.93. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 25, 08:20

AVAT2 has not traded above 465 today. {nm} Antibody Dec 25, 08:28

Started the Post yesterday. Copied the Price. Took a long time to do all the MATH. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 25, 08:34

Pretty easy to check the current price. {nm} Antibody Dec 25, 09:02

Makes No Difference. Current Price is 463.39 - that still makes No Difference. The Focus is on the MATH. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 25, 10:12

Makes a difference when you try to claim how "close" your prediction was. {nm} Antibody Dec 27, 10:19

or rather "how much" H$ was gained. {nm} Antibody Dec 27, 10:24

Not a PREDICTION. These are FACTS. The Focus is on the Box Office Comparison. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:39

How much was Gained / Lost is Irrelevant. Focus is on whether a SMACK-DOWN occurs. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:44

So you're just trying to move the stock price in a certain direction. {nm} Antibody Dec 27, 11:00

HUH? That's Crazy Talk. Posting the Box Office Comparison. Not trying to do anything else. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 11:13

No usage of "SMACKDOWN" will now be deleted. {nm} Antibody Dec 28, 01:14

It's not a PREDICTION. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:46

Then what's the purpose of your projections? No two films will decay at the exact same rate. {nm} Antibody Dec 27, 11:12

EXACTLY. The Blockbuster Comparison is relevant to see whether the (AVAT2) Delist CashOut will Match / Exceed / Underperform (SW16) 477.36. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 11:17

Okay. Any usage of "SMAKCDOWN" will now be deleted. {nm} Antibody Dec 28, 01:11

The PURPOSE of the (AVAT2) / (SW16) Comparison is to show what (AVAT2) needs to do to Match / Exceed / Underperform (SW16) 477.36. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 11:22

Is this an attempt to communicate with humans? (Setting aside the random capitalization and other quirks) {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Dec 27, 22:35

"quirks" {nm} Moviesnob Dec 27, 23:30

Also Copied the Number of (AVAT2) Shares Held LONG (515,337,736) & the Number of (AVAT2) Shares Held SHORT (55,437,238). {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 25, 08:50

Roto - I agree with your premise and the math is valid however the weather is delaying some from seeing the movie. CButera Dec 25, 10:15

This is going to be quite wrong and the only smackdown will be your predictions. Lets revisit when the figures are updated with actuals. {nm} Peter453 Dec 26, 04:10

RIGHT not WRONG. FACT not PREDICTION. FACT: (AVAT2) SMACK-DOWN to 438.93 'Based On Its Current Pace Relative To (SW16). FACT. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 26, 18:48

Hopeless as usual Peter453 Dec 26, 20:11

If you say you are, then you must be. FACTS were the FACTS. FACTS get Updated. Those were DAY 11 FACTS: Actual Box Office & DL Estimates. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 26, 21:25

Obviously, (AVAT2) needs to dramatically out-perform (SW16) for DAYS 8-24. If it doesn't, SMACK-DOWN occurs. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 26, 21:27

Daily Updates can be Prepared showing the Difference between (AVAT2) & (SW16) Heading towards Delist CashOut for (AVAT2). {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 26, 21:29

These were not PREDICTIONS - they were FACTS Demonstrating how far Behind (SW16) was at DAY11 Based on Posted Information by Deadline. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 26, 21:33

What you have Posted are not Actuals - they are simply Updated Deadline Estimates - Higher than the Disney / BOM 4-DAY Estimates of 90.0. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 26, 22:16

The DAY11 (AVAT2) / (SW16) Comparison will be Posted once the DAY-8-9-10-11 Actuals have been Posted. (SW16) DAY 24 Delist CashOut - 477.36. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 26, 22:20

(SW16) Actuals for the 4-DAY (DAYS-8-9-10-11) were 96.1. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 26, 22:24

FACT is Based upon Actual Box Office plus 4-DAY Deadline Estimates at DAY 11. FACT not PREDICTION. Will Update SMACK-DOWN FACT after Actuals {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 26, 18:51

FACT is the actual AVAT2 4-day is $95.5M. Your projections wasn't based on FACT. {nm} Antibody Dec 27, 10:22

FACTS were Based on the Deadline Posted Estimates. Never Claimed they were Actuals. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:50

There were no Actuals then - just the Deadline Posted Estimates. That is a FACT. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:52

(AVAT2) / (SW16) Comparison was Based on the Known FACTS at that time. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:55

At that time Nobody knew what the Actuals would be. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:57

Only Actuals are Facts. Projections are OPINIONS at the times, not facts. Antibody Dec 27, 11:03

The Deadline Posted Estimates were the Known FACTS at that time. There were no Actuals. Updated Comparison is Underway. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 11:20

Estimates are not facts, they are guesses. Sometimes they can be educated guesses but even those aren't facts. {nm} DTravel Dec 27, 22:29

He did not indicate they were facts; he declared them to be FACTS (a moment of silence for standard English) {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Dec 27, 22:37

Updated Comparison is underway. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 27, 10:59

Don't forget The Random CAPITALIZATION! (Maybe add strings of exclamation points?) {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Dec 28, 19:31

If the Sunday number had held then yeah 440 would probably be right, but with ~29m it could very well bend the curve up and land in the 460s {nm} MattW Dec 26, 09:45





Post a Reply

To post to the forums you must first login!


Enemies (ENMES) 30000 14.27 (-0.03)          Enemies (ENMES) 150000 14.27 (-0.03)          Eli Roth (EROTH) 20000 29.85 (-0.10)          Onslaught (ONSLT) 10001 8.96 (+0.01)          Ebenezer: A Christmas Carol (EBNZR) 216 64.22 (-0.05)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 150000 40.00 (0.00)          Corporate Retreat (CRPRT) 150000 3.47 (-0.86)          Adria Arjona (AARJO) 25000 21.61 (+0.12)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Monopoly (MONOP) 100000 11.40 (-0.06)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 150000 40.00 (0.00)          The Thomas Crown Affair (TTCAF) 40000 35.79 (-0.04)          Full Phil (FPHIL) 150000 4.27 (+0.03)          Logan's Run (LOGAN) 150000 4.24 (+0.07)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 150000 40.00 (0.00)          The Mandalorian and Grogu (SWAR3) 150000 252.67 (+0.74)          Lips Like Sugar (LIPLS) 150000 2.93 (+0.04)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Untitled Event Film Directed by (UEFDD) 150000 52.14 (-1.53)          Ranger's Apprentice (RNGAP) 220 0.05 (0.00)          Constantine 2 (CNST2) 150000 42.72 (-0.76)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Project Hail Mary (PRJHM) 150000 193.94 (+0.15)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 50000 40.00 (0.00)          Bad Lieutenant: Tokyo (BADLT) 1 3.63 (-0.02)          Bad Lieutenant: Tokyo (BADLT) 1 3.63 (-0.02)          Animal Farm (AFARM) 150000 13.14 (+0.28)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          The Conjuring Prequel (CNJU5) 150000 86.93 (+3.75)          James Bond 26 (JB26) 150000 164.89 (+0.60)          Avatar: Fire and Ash (AVAT3) 149999 450.88 (-0.91)          Jumanji sequel (JUMN3) 150000 151.90 (+0.67)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          The Last Witch Hunter 2 (TLWH2) 622 19.10 (+0.79)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 150000 40.00 (0.00)          The Mummy 4 (MUMY5) 150000 69.92 (+0.59)          Constantine 2 (CNST2) 1 42.72 (-0.76)          Constantine 2 (CNST2) 1 42.72 (-0.76)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          The Conjuring Prequel (CNJU5) 150000 86.93 (+3.75)          John Wick: Chapter 5 (WICK5) 150000 121.59 (+1.77)          Wicked: For Good $315M Blockbust (WCKD2.BW) 25000 5.59 (+0.59)          Mercy (MRCY1) 149999 32.62 (-0.43)          Untitled Event Film Directed by (UEFDD) 1 52.14 (-1.53)          Untitled Event Film Directed by (UEFDD) 1 52.14 (-1.53)          Signing Tony Raymond (SIGTR) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Normal (NORML) 10000 21.38 (+0.63)          Sing 3 (SING3) 150000 57.33 (+0.07)          Split Fiction (SPFIC) 150000 40.00 (0.00)          Ebenezer: A Christmas Carol (EBNZR) 900 64.22 (-0.05)