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One thing I'll be interested to see is (spoilers)

Posted by: RogerMore on Jun 25, 13:17 in response to Moviesnob's post thats really just the way its being marketed. The film...

is the use of right-to-left movement.

Before several key scenes - the opening scene of SWAT approaching the house, the SUV convoy crossing the border, the soldiers going into the tunnel, etc, the movement is of people/vehicles at the right of screen moving to the left, which is different to the usual left-to-right heroic-forward-progress movement

I don't think they're being depicted as villains, but it creates an ambiguous combo of "something bad is about to go down here" and "are they really doing the right thing?" and would have been a deliberate choice by Villeneuve/Deakins. But anyway, I'll be watching to see if this is repeated.

no love for Sicario 2 here? the first one was an unexpected hit and in it's third weekend only went wide with 2600 theaters. lobogotti Jun 25, 12:24

Den of Thieves opened to $15.2M in January. {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 12:36

SICA2.OW is at $15.96 {nm} Antibody Jun 25, 12:37

with an odd 1.8x expected delist multiplier. {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 12:51

There is some dissonance between the OW warrant and the actual moviestock price that I don't normally see. {nm} soupcam Jun 25, 12:36

quite a bit. {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 12:36

I've seen it. Emily Blunt isnt in it, so it wont play as m/f as the first one did. Its also being marketing to a heavy ethnic audience {nm} Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:00

marketing = marketed {nm} Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:00

It’s going to do well though. Much better than $29M delist. Theres some great buzz for it in my circles. {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 13:02

But double?! SICA2 is at 71% RT vs. 93% for SICAR. {nm} Antibody Jun 25, 13:07

The sequel was fast tracked for a summer release. The market for this type of film is very dry and guys are salivating. lobogotti Jun 25, 13:14

not true. this film has been through some bumps with both production and distribution and it was delayed due to those problems Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:20

Okay, thanks for info. Still, I think Sony made the right decision here. we’ll see {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 13:27

I don't know, making the Americans the villains doesn't seem like it'll play in Red States. {nm} Antibody Jun 25, 13:23

i think that reading will be much more straightforward to the left than the right. the right will identify with going above the law to Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:26

valid points for sure. maybe I’m too close to a broad group that loved the film and the trailer for the sequel.i lobogotti Jun 25, 13:29

I would be more inclined to agree if I didnt think this was gonna play 65%+ male and 60%+ ethnic. {nm} Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:32

I think the ethnic just helps in this case. Original Sicario, while excellent, morphed into a badass little action film that lobogotti Jun 25, 13:39

Its no accident Lionsgate dated Uncle Drew against this. They dont want a big opening for Sicario 2 and then you got AntMan & Wasp Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:47

valid points indeed. then it better open to $25M+! {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 13:53

its tracking better than a $29mil delist. HSX tends to undervalue movies that skew ethnic. But I have trouble believing its gonna Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:07

what’s the budget? {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 13:17

I've heard $60m+ {nm} Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:23

yeah, that’s high {nm} lobogotti Jun 25, 13:30

I'm looking forward to seeing it, i just hope it's as good as the first one. {nm} Randy Jun 25, 13:39

I rewatched the original over the weekend - the sequel is needless, and looks like a change in theme. (spoilers) RogerMore Jun 25, 13:03

thats really just the way its being marketed. The film itself is more of the dramatic action film you got with #1 Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:04

One thing I'll be interested to see is (spoilers) RogerMore Jun 25, 13:17

<inside> Moviesnob Jun 25, 13:30

OK cool, let's talk then. {nm} RogerMore Jun 25, 13:36





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