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Will the emphasis on comic book sequelry be the savior of the big screen, the end of it, or neither?
DTXbro
Apr 27, 09:12
nothing lasts forever. the unknown variable is how long "forever" actually is in this case
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slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 09:30
(sooner or later some smart exec will see that it's more profitable to make $100+m on a $25m budget than spending $250m to chase $500m)
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 09:38
I think you need to double check your math there my friend ($250m>$75m)
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Moviesnob
Apr 27, 09:44
but you can make 10 of those for 1 comic movie (not all are going to hit the jackpot every time but singles, doubles, and triples are good)
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slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 09:48
But sequels/franchise films are the surest way to make money. The risk is greater for originals. Why hit a few singles when every film can
Moviesnob
Apr 27, 09:53
no risk is great until the model stops working completely. having nothing much else in the pipeline will be fun to watch when it comes
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 10:04
the problem with comparing now to the 70's is there's growth in other revenue streams. Studios mitigate their loses through them and through
Moviesnob
Apr 27, 10:13
that was the DVD model until it died. use the extra revenue from home video to finance the "middle" and mitigate loss from big-budget flops
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 10:31
broadcast is the main revenue stream now and DVDs covered loses mostly from mid range flops that the studios have basically stopped making
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Moviesnob
Apr 27, 10:32
that's a good question or further info is needed. what films are big stuidos afraid of now?
lobogotti
Apr 27, 11:51
things in the $25-50m budget range, e.g., the rom-com, adult "prestige" drama, even straight up comedies
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slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 12:06
product that doesnt travel well overseas (Supertroopers 2)
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Moviesnob
Apr 27, 13:09
yup, proportionately on box office absolutely. But the component we're not taking into account here....
ronin66
Apr 27, 10:30
licensing only became a thing because Alan Ladd, Jr. took a flyer on George Lucas with an unknown script that became the biggest movie ever
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 10:33
the fault in your logic is finding enough material to make several movies to make more $$ than one big one.
tradermark
Apr 27, 11:19
there is literally an infinite supply of original spec scripts if any studio so chose to develop them.
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slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 11:30
I won't disagree the supply is there but making it adaptable is the key and i'd argue it doesn't all lend it itself to
tradermark
Apr 27, 11:38
spec scrips used to sell for several million dollars in the heyday of the 80s and 90s. studios obviously thought they were filmable then
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 11:46
Like what? Early Superman movies? Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor? Novelty of those movies made money.
tradermark
Apr 27, 12:22
Shane Black started it with Lethal Weapon.
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slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 12:25
good questions and observations. I tend to agree. but yeah, what does a decade from now look like at big box
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lobogotti
Apr 27, 09:41
Certainly spectacle is mostly what's drawing audiences into the theatre and away from excellent tv content.
lesana
Apr 27, 09:45
Great post. In the last year, I've really enjoyed much of the streaming offerings. It takes something special to get me to the theater.
RollingThunder
Apr 27, 09:49
they're buying cause that's what we're making. make something else and they still might buy that too. Steve Jobs never cared what consumers
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 09:49
Advertising is designed to make you feel like you want to have something you don't really need. They are great at it..
RollingThunder
Apr 27, 09:53
studios have gotten great at knowing what people want & theres more than enough choice out there. 90% of all films released are originals
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Moviesnob
Apr 27, 10:00
coming soon: DeathOnTheNile; DrDoolittle; Mowgli; TheNutcracker; RobinHood; Holmes/Watson; ...the ancient school of superhero franchises!
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RazorHawk
Apr 27, 10:31
Coming soon to a theater near you? Or coming soon (enough) to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Redbox, etc? {nm}
DTXbro
Apr 27, 15:04
You would likely make more HSX money if you were aware of what moviestocks are listed and their scheduled release dates.
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RazorHawk
Apr 29, 15:43
i don't know the actual comic book industry well enough to say, but the impression i get is that they keep developing new series constantly
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 10:36
i think the most recent characters are from the early 90's in film, nothing later.
tradermark
Apr 27, 11:21
How many people buy or read or care about comic books? And, just as important, how many of those comic book readers can
DTXbro
Apr 27, 11:44
Not if we have anything to say about it {nm}
JKRAS & JPEEL
Apr 27, 10:53
and yet Paramount's first instinct when a movie that has a clear definite ending succeeds is to say "sequel franchise!"
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 11:38
I see those superhero-films like themeparkrides. Kids and young adult events. When these kids grow up, they Will go see more adult themed...
JMT-NL
Apr 27, 11:17
somewhat related: Simpsons about to surpass Gunsmoke's 635 ep. record (in the 1950s and 60s, westerns were the comic book movies of the day)
slipping jimmy
Apr 27, 11:34
Sure were. And while delivery may differ both are succeeding on the big and little screen.
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tradermark
Apr 27, 12:15