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Posted by: badvladdy on Jul 06, 17:42 in response to shadowking's post Seems much more realistic than RS.

MTC Tracking: DESME $35m, PRED3 $24m {nm} Rolling_Thunder Jul 06, 16:30

Seems much more realistic than RS. {nm} shadowking Jul 06, 17:23

Agreed. badvladdy Jul 06, 17:42

shawman wrote recently that: "If MTC is higher than RS (it should not be insignificant), then actuals will be higher than MTC." Facto Jul 06, 18:01

Or actually, he used the < and > signs, and I am not entirely sure he used them correctly.... I asked for clarification, but didn't receive Facto Jul 06, 18:08

He was correct. This definitely points to DM having a good opening weekend. The "rule" has been almost flawless this summer. {nm} ShawnMR Jul 06, 18:37

But not $36 million plus good, which is what it needs right now to make its price. {nm} secretstalker Jul 06, 19:13

Yes that is exactly what I meant shawman Jul 06, 21:32

so does that mean we should expect pred to tank? {nm} tbonearelli Jul 08, 11:49

He also wrote, as another general rule,that: "If RS is higher than MTC ( it should not be insignificant), then actuals are lower than MTC." {nm} Facto Jul 06, 18:05

I don't see DESME doing that amount at ALL. Regardless of "the equation" I think RS is more on the mark this time. {nm} secretstalker Jul 06, 18:33

Yeah, I believe we've seen it track in the teens all the way until now. That MTC number really breaks the mold, here. {nm} Facto Jul 06, 18:41

The only thing that has me thinking a big weekend is the crazy amount of advertising they've poured into the film. Rolling_Thunder Jul 06, 18:47

But it's not good advertising for what the movie is... they make it look like it's all bout the minions. {nm} secretstalker Jul 06, 19:13

I'm not really into "the equation", though I do respect MTC on it's own. shadowking Jul 06, 18:50

Is it tracking like cloudy meatballs? Both Look to me like targeting the same demographic ;) {nm} karspov Jul 06, 18:37

But Despicable Me isn't nearly as good. {nm} secretstalker Jul 06, 18:40

Agreed , the trailer looks a bit confusing and the movie title certainly isn't kids friendly too {nm} karspov Jul 06, 18:43

The movie is more for kids than adults. {nm} secretstalker Jul 06, 18:47

Ugh. Not as good as "Cloudy"? Is that possible? "Cloudy" was horrendous! Sorry but it's true! {nm} Apokalips Jul 06, 23:02

Also, with the initial reviews on PRED3 quite good, I could see that one being under-estimated. There is a market for that type of movie {nm} GMov Jul 06, 18:44

There is definitely a market for that type of movie, however... shadowking Jul 06, 18:53

MTC Tracking: DESME $35m, PRED3 $24m numbersix_99 Jul 07, 03:29





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         Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 75000 22.27 (+0.76)          & Sons (ASONS) 100000 4.58 (-0.36)          The Roses (TROSE) 55000 16.22 (+0.65)          Girls Trip 2 (GRLT2) 24999 15.41 (+0.69)          The Bookie & the Bruiser (TBATB) 24999 14.45 (+0.82)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 3 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 3 15.32 (-0.33)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 3 32.40 (-0.79)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150000 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 15.32 (-0.33)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 150000 32.40 (-0.79)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 3 14.44 (+0.55)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 150000 14.44 (+0.55)          Tornado (TRNDO) 150000 1.69 (+0.01)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 100000 22.27 (+0.76)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 50000 6.62 (0.00)          The Thomas Crown Affair (TTCAF) 100000 14.38 (-0.03)          Val Kilmer (VKILM) 25000 39.57 (0.00)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 25000 23.21 (0.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 55000 15.16 (-0.07)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          Zootopia 2 (ZOOT2) 5 214.38 (0.00)          Elio (ELIO) 5 142.93 (0.00)          Untitled Monsterverse Godzilla x (GOKO3) 8 121.94 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 3 29.41 (-0.05)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 30 32.40 (-0.79)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150 15.87 (-0.47)          The Roses (TROSE) 45 16.22 (+0.65)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 250 75.73 (0.00)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 35 75.73 (0.00)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150 15.32 (-0.33)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 45 22.27 (+0.76)          Fight or Flight (FIOFL) 60 2.36 (+0.12)          The Friend (FREND) 28 5.56 (-0.13)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 150000 4.92 (-0.04)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 20 9.21 (+0.33)          The Beekeeper 2 (BEKP2) 150000 27.02 (+0.24)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 50000 32.40 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 100000 29.41 (-0.05)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Pillion (PILON) 50000 2.79 (+0.01)          Gundam (GUNDM) 150000 25.00 (+0.24)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 75000 22.27 (+0.76)          & Sons (ASONS) 100000 4.58 (-0.36)          The Roses (TROSE) 55000 16.22 (+0.65)          Girls Trip 2 (GRLT2) 24999 15.41 (+0.69)          The Bookie & the Bruiser (TBATB) 24999 14.45 (+0.82)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 3 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 3 15.32 (-0.33)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 3 32.40 (-0.79)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150000 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 15.32 (-0.33)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 150000 32.40 (-0.79)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 3 14.44 (+0.55)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 150000 14.44 (+0.55)          Tornado (TRNDO) 150000 1.69 (+0.01)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 100000 22.27 (+0.76)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 50000 6.62 (0.00)          The Thomas Crown Affair (TTCAF) 100000 14.38 (-0.03)          Val Kilmer (VKILM) 25000 39.57 (0.00)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 25000 23.21 (0.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 55000 15.16 (-0.07)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          Zootopia 2 (ZOOT2) 5 214.38 (0.00)          Elio (ELIO) 5 142.93 (0.00)          Untitled Monsterverse Godzilla x (GOKO3) 8 121.94 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 3 29.41 (-0.05)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 30 32.40 (-0.79)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150 15.87 (-0.47)          The Roses (TROSE) 45 16.22 (+0.65)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 250 75.73 (0.00)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 35 75.73 (0.00)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150 15.32 (-0.33)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 45 22.27 (+0.76)          Fight or Flight (FIOFL) 60 2.36 (+0.12)          The Friend (FREND) 28 5.56 (-0.13)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 150000 4.92 (-0.04)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 20 9.21 (+0.33)          The Beekeeper 2 (BEKP2) 150000 27.02 (+0.24)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 50000 32.40 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 100000 29.41 (-0.05)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Pillion (PILON) 50000 2.79 (+0.01)          Gundam (GUNDM) 150000 25.00 (+0.24)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 75000 22.27 (+0.76)          & Sons (ASONS) 100000 4.58 (-0.36)          The Roses (TROSE) 55000 16.22 (+0.65)          Girls Trip 2 (GRLT2) 24999 15.41 (+0.69)          The Bookie & the Bruiser (TBATB) 24999 14.45 (+0.82)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 3 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 3 15.32 (-0.33)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 3 32.40 (-0.79)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150000 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 15.32 (-0.33)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 150000 32.40 (-0.79)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 3 14.44 (+0.55)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 150000 14.44 (+0.55)          Tornado (TRNDO) 150000 1.69 (+0.01)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 100000 22.27 (+0.76)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 50000 6.62 (0.00)          The Thomas Crown Affair (TTCAF) 100000 14.38 (-0.03)          Val Kilmer (VKILM) 25000 39.57 (0.00)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 25000 23.21 (0.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 55000 15.16 (-0.07)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          Zootopia 2 (ZOOT2) 5 214.38 (0.00)          Elio (ELIO) 5 142.93 (0.00)          Untitled Monsterverse Godzilla x (GOKO3) 8 121.94 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 3 29.41 (-0.05)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 30 32.40 (-0.79)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150 15.87 (-0.47)          The Roses (TROSE) 45 16.22 (+0.65)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 250 75.73 (0.00)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 35 75.73 (0.00)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150 15.32 (-0.33)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 45 22.27 (+0.76)          Fight or Flight (FIOFL) 60 2.36 (+0.12)          The Friend (FREND) 28 5.56 (-0.13)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 150000 4.92 (-0.04)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 20 9.21 (+0.33)          The Beekeeper 2 (BEKP2) 150000 27.02 (+0.24)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 50000 32.40 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 100000 29.41 (-0.05)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Pillion (PILON) 50000 2.79 (+0.01)          Gundam (GUNDM) 150000 25.00 (+0.24)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 75000 22.27 (+0.76)          & Sons (ASONS) 100000 4.58 (-0.36)          The Roses (TROSE) 55000 16.22 (+0.65)          Girls Trip 2 (GRLT2) 24999 15.41 (+0.69)          The Bookie & the Bruiser (TBATB) 24999 14.45 (+0.82)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 3 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 3 15.32 (-0.33)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 3 32.40 (-0.79)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150000 15.87 (-0.47)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150000 15.32 (-0.33)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 150000 32.40 (-0.79)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 3 14.44 (+0.55)          The Wedding Banquet (TWEDB) 150000 14.44 (+0.55)          Tornado (TRNDO) 150000 1.69 (+0.01)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 100000 22.27 (+0.76)          The Last Rodeo (TLROD) 50000 6.62 (0.00)          The Thomas Crown Affair (TTCAF) 100000 14.38 (-0.03)          Val Kilmer (VKILM) 25000 39.57 (0.00)          Murder, She Wrote (MURSW) 25000 23.21 (0.00)          Clika (CLIKA) 55000 15.16 (-0.07)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          By Any Means (CI34) 150000 21.99 (+0.93)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          & Sons (ASONS) 150000 4.58 (-0.36)          Zootopia 2 (ZOOT2) 5 214.38 (0.00)          Elio (ELIO) 5 142.93 (0.00)          Untitled Monsterverse Godzilla x (GOKO3) 8 121.94 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 3 29.41 (-0.05)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 30 32.40 (-0.79)          The Smashing Machine (SMACH) 150 15.87 (-0.47)          The Roses (TROSE) 45 16.22 (+0.65)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 250 75.73 (0.00)          The Bad Guys 2 (TBAD2) 35 75.73 (0.00)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 150000 9.21 (+0.33)          Eden aka Origin Of Species (OSPEC) 150 15.32 (-0.33)          Bring Her Back (BRNHB) 45 22.27 (+0.76)          Fight or Flight (FIOFL) 60 2.36 (+0.12)          The Friend (FREND) 28 5.56 (-0.13)          Cheech & Chong's Last Movie (CACLM) 150000 4.92 (-0.04)          Epiphany (EPHNY) 20 9.21 (+0.33)          The Beekeeper 2 (BEKP2) 150000 27.02 (+0.24)          Zero A.D. aka Bethlehem (BTLHM) 50000 32.40 (-0.79)          Resident Evil (RESE8) 100000 29.41 (-0.05)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Jack Ryan (RYAN1) 150000 60.52 (-0.79)          Pillion (PILON) 50000 2.79 (+0.01)          Gundam (GUNDM) 150000 25.00 (+0.24)